Osama Bin Laden killed!

[Lostlover]

Let's put it this way--- bin Laden is the figurehead, so he at the moment may well be a martyr. We don't know what that means. And yet his death could revitalize the Afghanistan people against the Taliban, so that a substantial political entity may yet still rise from the historically failed state that it has been.

We've come this far, we've done what Dubya had no interest in doing--- let's let a competent commander-in-chief see what 8 years of bumbling and optional war were never going to let be possible.

I see.

Just shows you how pathetic Bush's efforts had been in his 8 years. And Obama gutted the military. And Obama is weak on national security. And Leon Penetta was a political apointee.

Pathetic.

 

[chrisrobin]

Re: The President's Address 10:30 PM EST?

Leave it to you to shit on this news.

"The corpse at every wedding, the bride at every funeral."
-with apologies to Oscar Wilde

 

[chance1]

you upset they got Bin Laden?

Seems that way,don't it?

As Rareboy says..''Bitter girls will be bitter.''

Good job President Obama-and a bigger thanks to the guys who pulled the trigger and brought that piece of shit down!

I think he's upset that you're turning it into a political victory for the president. It isn't. Its a victory for the special forces that did it, the intelligence community that found him, and the American people as a whole. Politics has nothing to do with it.

As for the killing; its no wonder Bush couldn't find him. The fucker was hiding by the Pakistani capital. They have a lot to answer for.

Ur a joke patchy - taking a great thing and putting ur shit on it

Knucklehead - read my post - too bad u didn't what part of "glad he's dead" dont u get? U can apologize via pm

Jb - thanks for laying it out correctly

To Jubberclubbers - call out ur pirate brethren for his blatant politicizing of a great thing - IMMEDIATELY - right away

Much like the Arizona shootings
It suggests a sickness - and he should be called on it - but he won't

 

[Telstra]

ummm don't celebrate to fast.
Terrorists are still around ...

 

[BostonPirate]

it seems there are spontaneous celebrations popping up around the nation.

 

[BostonPirate]

Ur a joke patchy - taking a great thing and putting ur shit on it

Knucklehead - read my post - too bad u didn't what part of "glad he's dead" dont u get? U can apologize via pm

Jb - thanks for laying it out correctly

To Jubberclubbers - call out ur pirate brethren for his blatant politicizing of a great thing - IMMEDIATELY - right away

Much like the Arizona shootings
It suggests a sickness - and he should be called on it - but he won't

stop whining and celebrate dude.

we got the bastard.

 

[Lostlover]

The mansion belonged to the Pakistani military and intelligence agency. Wtf?

 

[JB3]

nonsense

Bush dismantled the team that was hunting for him. Obama put it back together when he became president.




Published: July 4, 2006

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

And if you had listened to the coverage tonight, you'd know that the search never stopped, even though the specific group had been dismantled. (just like the article you quoted said) The search continued through the election all the way up until now.

 

[JB3]

Lostlover, I swear, Dubya could've gone down in history as solid gold had he stayed focused on Afghanistan, swarmed that shitty hell hole with all that we had, locked it down, scoured the countryside for the motherfucker, and focused on building up the infrastructure. Instead, he sent more troops and resources into Iraq (a smaller country) than he did Afghanistan, and Iraq had shit to do with anything.

NO REPUBLICAN OR LIEBERMAN (FAUX DEMOCRAT) CAN ARGUE OTHERWISE. They were all absolutely wrong about Iraq, and re-electing him was a STUPID mistake.

Except it wouldn't have mattered seeing as how Bin Laden was in Pakistan, probably for the last 10 years.

 

[Lostlover]

Lostlover, I swear, Dubya could've gone down in history as solid gold had he stayed focused on Afghanistan, swarmed that shitty hell hole with all that we had, locked it down, scoured the countryside for the motherfucker, and focused on building up the infrastructure. Instead, he sent more troops and resources into Iraq (a smaller country) than he did Afghanistan, and Iraq had shit to do with anything.

NO REPUBLICAN OR LIEBERMAN (FAUX DEMOCRAT) CAN ARGUE OTHERWISE. They were all absolutely wrong about Iraq, and re-electing him was a STUPID mistake.

Agree totally. His abysmal record on the economy and domestic affairs would have meant shit election time if he had his ducks in a row in Afghanistan.

And worst yet, secular Saddam was hostile to religion. And Iraq has an educated population and middle class. He nor the Iraqis deserved to be invaded. Saddam was a horrible person, but settling a score with your father's enemy was no reason to kill so many innocent people.

 

[CowboyBob]

Ur a joke patchy - taking a great thing and putting ur shit on it

Knucklehead - read my post - too bad u didn't what part of "glad he's dead" dont u get? U can apologize via pm

Jb - thanks for laying it out correctly

To Jubberclubbers - call out ur pirate brethren for his blatant politicizing of a great thing - IMMEDIATELY - right away

Much like the Arizona shootings
It suggests a sickness - and he should be called on it - but he won't

Leave it to him to enter a thread and start scolding everyone. Cripes.

Shaddap and enjoy the news.

 

[BostonPirate]

And if you had listened to the coverage tonight, you'd know that the search never stopped, even though the specific group had been dismantled. (just like the article you quoted said) The search continued through the election all the way up until now.

The info was gained a few months back, right? that was what the president said. I will definitely agree that it took alot of effort by alot of people to do this, but it took a commander in cheif that knew to keep his eye on the right ball in pakistan to make it all come together.

don't the conservatives lay every military failure on Obama as a failure of leadership?

cant it be concluded by the same logic that this was a success of leadership?

which spin are we choosing tonight, my friend? there will be plenty to go around. I have no shortage of opinion and I dont begrudge anyone else theirs.

History will be asking these same questions for decades that we are asking in the first hours.

 

[chance1]

stop whining and celebrate dude.

we got the bastard.

You're celebrating a partisan victory

Not a human one

A sad and cynical take by a sad and cynical man

You celebrate in your way which is a disgrace

I'm good with mine

 

[JayHawk]

Bottom line is this nutter was living outside the capital of Pakistan.

We need to seriously analyze that situation where we support our enemies.

Unfortunately whether it is sporadic loons acting independently or if a new figurehead takes the reigns I fear that this will lead to a more inspired war.

And please remove your partisan bullshit. I say this as a military member who will watch people die whether it is republican or democrat in office. We stay the same and we execute the same way.

It is good for the folks who are obsessed with Osama being the kingpin of this war on terror. It will also easily be a milestone for the President and his record. I just urge caution. My vote will most likely be the same in 2012 based on the possible field being examined on the republican side. So my reticence is not about that.

 

[CowboyBob]

Except it wouldn't have mattered seeing as how Bin Laden was in Pakistan, probably for the last 10 years.

Let's not start assuming things. Wait until we know the facts.

 

[JB3]

The info was gained a few months back, right? that was what the president said. I will definitely agree that it took alot of effort by alot of people to do this, but it took a commander in cheif that knew to keep his eye on the right ball in pakistan to make it all come together.

don't the conservatives lay every military failure on Obama as a failure of leadership?

cant it be concluded by the same logic that this was a success of leadership?

which spin are we choosing tonight, my friend? there will be plenty to go around. I have no shortage of opinion and I dont begrudge anyone else theirs.

History will be asking these same questions for decades that we are asking in the first hours.

Oh I'm not saying Obama is a bad leader by any stretch of the imagination. All I'm saying is that he should not get credit for it. The people that actually did the work (worked the intelligence, coordinated with Pakistanis, carried out the mission, etc.) should get the credit. He was focused on pakistan because that's what his intelligence agencies told him to focus on.

 

[BostonPirate]

You're celebrating a partisan victory

Not a human one

A sad and cynical take by a sad and cynical man

You celebrate in your way which is a disgrace

I'm good with mine

there are things I change my mind on and there are things I do NOT.

this will not be one of them. Bush dropped the ball and Obama picked it up. Its about time someone claimed justice for the people that died, and if you think what YOU are doing is not partizan then you are so out of touch with logic I cant even begin to find the words for it.

 

[hotatlboi]

some new info coming in about how we located him...

 

[chance1]

Leave it to him to enter a thread and start scolding everyone. Cripes.

Shaddap and enjoy the news.

I'll chalk u up for ok with politicizing the action - the moment it happened

Yeah

Good to know

Defend the indefensible

 

[BostonPirate]

Oh I'm not saying Obama is a bad leader by any stretch of the imagination. All I'm saying is that he should not get credit for it. The people that actually did the work (worked the intelligence, coordinated with Pakistanis, carried out the mission, etc.) should get the credit. He was focused on pakistan because that's what his intelligence agencies told him to focus on.

so when america does BAD that means Obama is a BAD leader.

when America does good, it has NOTHING to do with the executive leadership of the nation.

That wont float.