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Paul Ryan is Mitt Romney's running mate?

The Ryan Ball Lickers Club RBLC are shooting their loads all over this man

Hmmmmmm, since the choice of Ryan was simply to assuage the LOUD caterwauling from Republican pundits like Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham, maybe they should be the Lady Republican Ovary Lathers (LROL, pronounced L-role) ohhh wait, I forgot about Limbaugh (and let's face it, any ovaries he might have had I'm sure got nuked by all the oxy) so let's call them Lady Republican Ovary and Limbaugh Smelly Hole (cuz ya KNOW the poor thing can't reach too good) Lickers or LROSHL for ummm short.

LROSHL...that's a lotta letters tho. Might lack punch....back to the drawing board!
 
As Jayhawk pointed out,the goal of the Republician party is to ensure Obama is a one term president. And if that means seeing the country go to hell to accomplish that,so be it.
As Jayhawk pointed out,the goal of the Republician party is to ensure Obama is a one term president. And if that means seeing [STRIKE]the country[/STRIKE] the world go to hell to accomplish that, so be it.
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There are indications that the pick of Paul Ryan may already be backfiring...

Ryan pick damages market odds of Romney victory in Florida | The Signal - Yahoo! News

Florida's powerful senior citizen voting bloc don't approve of his budget plan and if Obama could hammer this one home, Florida could be a lost cause for Mitt Romney. The latest poll put Obama ahead by 6% in Florida, and this could in fact increase. Yes, Cowboy Bob is right. Conservatives are excited but for all the wrong reasons. They shouldn't be excited as this man may not be practical for them even coming close to the White House.

Again, I think a postcard will be the closest Mitt Romney will get to the White House. One sent off in December from Obama wishing him well.

All ObamaCo. has to do is keep reminding all the seniors and soon to be seniors that Ryan's economic vision for the US means an impoverished and unhealthy future for them and the rest will sort itself out.
 
Jayqueer wrote:

If we have another round of "Occupy" protests before November, I can guarantee you the Republicans (Romney/Ryan) will win.

The "Occupy" protesters had one chance to convince the public. They blew it. Now they are seen as unkempt rabble rousers who destroy public property and send the bill to the taxpayers

^ What the fuck are you even talking about.

The only Occupy protests will be the ones staged and funded by the Koch Bros. to scare the electorate into voting for the Republicans.
 
Originally Posted by Benvolio
To a liberal, everything including one's earnings belong to the state. So anything the government does not take is a gift from the government. If Republicans do not want to raise taxes, it is a gift.

Again, one of the stupidest and ignorant opinions you've ever posted.

I am a liberal in many things.

As a liberal I do not believe that 'everything belongs to the state'.

You keep demonstrating that you don't know what liberal means. You keep equating it with economic collectivism and communism.

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Liberalism is not communism.

Even though the RNC T baggers who all got their 'degrees' from some fake bible college, if they got one at all....would like us all to believe that they are the same.
 
Any one interested in why Ryan was chosen should take a quick look at this.Smart Democrats Should Be Worried - By John Fund - The Corner - National Review Online Notice that he voted in favor of a law against discrimination against gays.
Notice also that he has 7 times been elected from a Democrat district, and never by less than 57%. It does not hurt that he is a practicing Catholic which has historically been a big part of the Democrat base, including Hispanics
More importantly, he will insure that we have a serious discussion of the economic issues confronting our country of which Hussein is totally oblivious.
 
It does not hurt that he is a practicing Catholic? Open eyes up please. He has no appeal to Hispanics. He's a rich white man. In addition, the Catholic Church condemned him for his draconian tax plan. And I must also add he's facing a very strong democratic challenger in his district... so if he wasn't picked he would most likely be beaten. He doesn't inspire a serious discussion... just take a look at his disgusting tax plan even the Catholic Church found revolting. So much for that Catholic part.

If you honestly think he'll get Hispanics (a group you constantly bash), you're gravely mistaken. Catholics will overwhelmingly vote for Obama/Biden.

Catholic Leaders to Rep. Paul Ryan: Stop Distorting Church Teaching to Justify Immoral Budget | Faith in Public Life



Rarely do I agree with the Catholic Church, but they have an extremely strong point here. Ryan's tax plan would leave the poor and disadvantaged in dire straits.

Take a read of this... it appears he doesn't even have the support of his own church... they criticized him harshly.

So much for that claim, Benvolio.

NOT to mention that a several Catholic Organizations have called Romney out on his remarks againist the Poor!
 
Notice that he voted in favor of a law against discrimination against gays.

Big fucking deal. He voted "yes" on a bill prohibiting discrimination on the job based on sexual orientation (only AFTER he tried to have the bill shelved) and I'm supposed to be what, GRATEFUL? Only a fucking neanderthal would vote, in this day and age to ALLOW that discrimination. According to Ryan's voting record then, I am ALLOWED to keep my job but I shouldn't get any ideas about serving in the military, raising children or having my relationships recognized as being legally legitimate. Gee, thanks. Damning with faint praise, indeed.
 
The idea of Paul Ryan appealing to catholic voters...particularly the Hispanics....is enough to make me blow Sprite through my nose.

If this is what the RNC was thinking when they crafted this selection.................omg.

He'll have an easier time appealing to the Orange vote than he will to the Hispanic voters.

Everything he stands for is antithetical to the catholic latin society and the teachings of the Church.

His spiritual advisor, Ayn Rand, is just next to the Anit-Christ, in a true Catholic's catechism.
 
The idea of Paul Ryan appealing to catholic voters...particularly the Hispanics....is enough to make me blow Sprite through my nose.

If this is what the RNC was thinking when they crafted this selection.................omg.

He'll have an easier time appealing to the Orange vote than he will to the Hispanic voters.

Everything he stands for is antithetical to the catholic latin society and the teachings of the Church.

His spiritual advisor, Ayn Rand, is just next to the Anit-Christ, in a true Catholic's catechism.

I already said this yesterday. He is a CINO. He's a Plutocrat like Romney but they just tout out those social issues to get the religious dolts to vote for them. Also shockingly (not for me though), most Catholics lean liberal. Sure they hate killing babies and gays but everything else about them is stuff Democrats like.
 
After doing some more research, the selection seems to be quite solid, even inspired.

Evidently, there is evidence of strong support, not only from the Republican base, but from the Tea Party movement, as well, given the announced economic and budgetary postures. Tea Party supported candidates have shown great strengths, especially when run up against incumbents. That the Tea Party is still around, is somewhat surprising, given how political movements come along, have their fifteen minutes of fame or notoriety, and go. The strengths of the Tea Party in fact, could lead one to posit them becoming a third major party, but that should be a discussion for another thread.

Also, there was some polling done done in Wisconsin in July that posed the possibility of a Romney-Ryan ticket. "... Although Obama led Wisconsin by 6 points in a head-to-head matchup with Romney, the poll showed that the vote swung by five points in favor of Republicans when Ryan was added to the ticket. ... " and, "... A third factor, that has been mostly overlooked, is how Ryan could shift the youth vote in Wisconsin. PPP [Public Policy Polling] found that, with Ryan on the ticket, Republicans could actually win the 18-to-45 age group in Wisconsin over an Obama-Biden ticket...."

Paul Ryan's oratory and debate style have already led some to consider him the winner in a debate with a representative of the left, Rep. Barney Frank: "... A few months ago, I got to watch Paul Ryan debate entitlement reform with Rep. Barney Frank, who was rude and ill-informed. Ryan not only handled Frank gracefully, he won the argument. When everyone else's hair is on fire, Ryan keeps his cool. He's a happy warrior, reasonable and nonthreatening. ..." Mary Cate Cary, "10 Reasons Paul Ryan Should Be Mitt Romney's VP Pick", US News.com

Recently widely publicised is the projection that payments made from Social Security to any given participant will now be less than that given participant paid in, and add in the vagaries and projected budgetary problems with Medicare within the context of Obamacare, Paul Ryan's message becomes all the more compelling.

Too, there has been widespread reportage of the fears (oddly enough, even from among the left, i.e., members of the Democratic Party) that chief among the reasons the country was heading in the wrong direction, was an increasingly larger more powerful centralized government.

Most vocal about this has been the senior age group, who grew up not having received the indoctrinations of globalism, see this as part of the increasing loss of individual and national sovereignty; Who also see Obama as part champion, part architect, and part product of this restructuring, and you are not likely to see them vote for him when presented with an All-American duo like Romney Ryan. So, I believe the assertion that Medicare recipients, especially when the explanation of the actual changes to be made to these entitlement programs, as opposed to the scare rhetoric from the Democrats, would not vote for the Repubs, is seriously flawed.

On the Catholic issue, all I was able to uncover was that the Church leadership, opposed the budgetary cuts, not the church laity. If anyone has any actual polling, I'd like to see some citation.
 
The difference between Wisconsin Polls and the Nation is the level of interest and the level of exposure. We will find out if Ryan stands up to that level of scrutiny.

Between Abrahamoff to DeLay and onto the budget that was eviscerated by both sides of the aisle after they finally read it. I mean seriously there was Ryan budget I and then the house realized it had gaping holes and introduced Ryan II almost immediately. Plus take a look back through time and tell me when the last budget hawk was elected to high office? I can tell ya... never.

The message is all wrong. People like inspiration and a future and it is impossible to weave that into we are slashing this and cutting that from what you have now. Obama and his campaign will have them defending themselves in no time while they project the image onto the two candidates. Because you see the Campaign staff at Romney/Ryan are still the same idiots that have lost so far.

Finally on his debate skills I would agree he is a step above many seconds the Republicans have offered in the last ten years. he is likable and without much baggage. However Joe Biden is not Barney Frank. Barney frank couldnt win a debate with a ten year old girl much less a well spoken, calm projector of the republican image. Here is the twist on comparing a debate located on a news network where both debaters KNOW the topic going into the debate.. there is no off balance and no need to come up with answers on the spot so to speak. I think he was a good debate choice but I dont think it is his game to lose.

SO there is one last thing to consider. Romney stated meet the next "President of the United States" when he introduced Ryan. Which of course Obama did but immediately corrected himself. Romney then wobbled back up to the mic after someone told him and admitted his mistake. I point that out because if Romney is anything he is filled with gaffes. I also point it out because Ryan isn't the President he is the VP and the base will get a bump out of Ryan but we are hiring Romney (IF that's the way it goes which it wont) so he better get his shit together.
 
SO there is one last thing to consider. Romney stated meet the next "President of the United States" when he introduced Ryan. Which of course Obama did but immediately corrected himself. Romney then wobbled back up to the mic after someone told him and admitted his mistake. I point that out because if Romney is anything he is filled with gaffes. I also point it out because Ryan isn't the President he is the VP and the base will get a bump out of Ryan but we are hiring Romney (IF that's the way it goes which it wont) so he better get his shit together.

This is an important statement by JayHawk. There is an irony of truth in the gaffe Romney made. Republicans are excited about the prospect of a Ryan VP but not about Romney actually being the President of the United States (even though that's kind of the job that counts). It was incredibly embarrassing for the Republican candidate for President to call out his VP pick as "The next President of the United States!" Even more so, as JayHawk pointed out, that he went off the stage and didn't even know he had blundered until someone else told him about it and to "get the fuck back on that stage" and save face.

I know some of us disagree on politics and have different viewpoints, but to be an educated gay man, I do not see how you can possibly vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket. I mean that with absolute sincerity and concern. This would be a presidency that would be so incompetent and embarrassing. Romney is the wrong choice, and yes, I would agree with you that being stuck with one choice like Obama isn't a good thing for the country. I support Obama, but it is not good for this republic that he is the only viable and sane option in this 2012 election.
 

Clearly this means that cutting taxes or extending the tax cut is a gift to the rich, which could only be true if their income belongs to the government to begin with.
If liberals talk like totalitarians we have little choice but to take them at their word.
 
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