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I find it ironic that many early Christians believed that a newborn human became a person with the first breath, but many today have gone the other direction and claim that a just-fertilized ovum is a person.

Correction- that belief of "nefesh" comes Genesis and Exodus, so the origin is Judaism, not Christianity. It was also the belief of Southern Baptists until Jerry Falwell and Paul Weyrich decided in the late 70s that abortion could be used for political purposes.
 
Correction- that belief of "nefesh" comes Genesis and Exodus, so the origin is Judaism, not Christianity. It was also the belief of Southern Baptists until Jerry Falwell and Paul Weyrich decided in the late 70s that abortion could be used for political purposes.

The point is that many early Christians believed it but now many have gone to the extreme opposite -- the source is not relevant.
 
Correction- that belief of "nefesh" comes Genesis and Exodus, so the origin is Judaism, not Christianity. It was also the belief of Southern Baptists until Jerry Falwell and Paul Weyrich decided in the late 70s that abortion could be used for political purposes.

The point is that many early Christians believed it but now many have gone to the extreme opposite -- the source is not relevant.

It seems to me the source is indeed relevant. If the belief that life begins at first breath originates in old Judaism dating back to Christ's time and before, and since Jesus was very much a Jew following those traditions, is it not a logical conclusion that those were Jesus' beliefs as well? If so, the point being, "Christians" today really have no concern for what Jesus would have believed or thought about abortion (or anything for that matter) at all, yet they hypocritically claim they follow him. Not that it's a surprise. He said nothing about it.
 
It seems to me the source is indeed relevant. If the belief that life begins at first breath originates in old Judaism dating back to Christ's time and before, and since Jesus was very much a Jew following those traditions, is it not a logical conclusion that those were Jesus' beliefs as well?

Right: he spent his life telling off old Judaism, so why would he not share the same beliefs..?
 
The point is that many early Christians believed it but now many have gone to the extreme opposite -- the source is not relevant.
It seems to me the source is indeed relevant. If the belief that life begins at first breath originates in old Judaism dating back to Christ's time and before, and since Jesus was very much a Jew following those traditions, is it not a logical conclusion that those were Jesus' beliefs as well? If so, the point being, "Christians" today really have no concern for what Jesus would have believed or thought about abortion (or anything for that matter) at all, yet they hypocritically claim they follow him. Not that it's a surprise. He said nothing about it.
^That's exactly it.

It's a belief that goes back centuries into the origin of monotheistic beliefs and Abrahamic religion. Three thousand years later, a group of radical evangelicals in Virginia rewrote one of the core beliefs of their American Christianity and the flock went along... all for the purpose of peeling off evangelical voters from Jimmy Carter and the Democratic party.

It's the shame shit they have been doing over the year to exploit their views on homosexual, slavery, the role of women...
 
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