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POLL IT:- Straight-acting

How do you feel about the term straight-acting?

  • I don't like it, but i don't resent it's usage

    Votes: 14 15.7%

  • I don't like it, and i disapprove of those who use it

    Votes: 24 27.0%

  • I don't object to it, but i don't identify with it

    Votes: 23 25.8%

  • I identify as straight-acting

    Votes: 27 30.3%

  • I don't fully understand the term

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Total voters
    89
  • Poll closed .
bankside said:
Actually i did post it above, but read John McWhorter on "acting white." The phenomenon exists, except within american black communities it is an insult used to discourage black youth interested in academics and prosperity, while "straight acting" seems to be a aspirational goal for some cocksuckers instead of a negative.

In either case, it takes behaviour which is not bounded by orientation or ethnicity at all, and tries to mistakenly attribute it to orientation or ethnicity, and then use it as a standard of comparison.
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This I agree with but find difficulty in ascribing a superior position simply based on other peoples life expereince.
 
eastofeden said:
I always wonder how people define feminine and masculine behavior.

I love my feminine side...wouldn't trade it for anything. My feminine side is a cross between Sigourney Weaver in Aliens and Mother Abigail from The Stand:mrgreen:...my female side is bad ass...and kinda mystical.
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Aliens rules and I love the reversal of gender rules. Sigourney Weaver kills in these movies.
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
Aliens rules and I love the reversal of gender rules. Sigourney Weaver kills in these movies.
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Fun fact, Ripley was written as a male character in the script, and when Sigourney Weaver was cast for the role she insisted none of the dialogue be changed.
 
It's funny that masculinity keeps getting brought into the discussion. What does this have to do with masculinity?? Straight-acting are two distinct classifications that share some common ground.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly wrong.
 
youfiad said:
It's funny that masculinity keeps getting brought into the discussion. What does this have to do with masculinity?? Straight-acting are two distinct classifications that share some common ground.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly wrong.
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Enlighten us.
 
youfiad said:
It's funny that masculinity keeps getting brought into the discussion. What does this have to do with masculinity?? Straight-acting are two distinct classifications that share some common ground.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly wrong.
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I guess upon personal choice but in most peoples minds that are posting here it appears they view masculine and straight acting as synonymous.
 
youfiad said:
It's funny that masculinity keeps getting brought into the discussion. What does this have to do with masculinity?? Straight-acting are two distinct classifications that share some common ground.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly wrong.
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Please enlighten us then. Cause apparently everyone feels differently about what it is or represents.
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
Please enlighten us then. Cause apparently everyone feels differently about what it is or represents.
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Here's my quick write-up from the other thread. I have had many many people sending me comments saying that I pretty much nailed the nail on the head, so it must have some truth to it.


I was thinking about this topic at work again, because it seems so clear in my mind. However, I think that the "Straight acting" self-descriptor is evident for some. And if it's not, try to look at it like this; as those who actively use the term see it.

Let's say we were on a forum where there were a lot of lesbians. Let's say that they also used the term "straight-acting" instead of "feminine". Women don't always identify themselves as feminine, yet they blend in fine with heterosexual culture. For example, I was talking to a girl who had dread locks, loves heavy metal, sports, etc.. In my mind, nothing about her struck me as gay, and she isn't gay. In fact, she's getting married to a guy soon. Let's say for the sake of argument she were a lesbian in the forum searching for other "straight acting" but not looking for "feminine". In this case using feminine as a synonym would be silly.

The exact same thing goes for men. You may not see it that way, but that's perfectly fine. You don't have to. Nobody is forcing you to use the word.

I know this isn't really going to help the situation; people already have their minds made up on the topic.
 
Well then, let's get a couple of examples for men. Can you give some descriptors or adjectives or traits that would be "masculine" but not "straight-acting"? And perhaps some that are "straight-acting" but not "masculine"?

Lex
 
youfiad said:
I know this isn't really going to help the situation; people already have their minds made up on the topic.
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I know I definitely have made up my mind, but I do change my mind often enough. The trouble is, I read your point and I don't know if I agree with it or disagree because I still don't get what the terms mean to you. The one thing that does stand out is I pretty much think "heterosexual culture" is what happens in a straight bar between men and women who are interested in each other. Everything else is just "culture." But the rest of your example I don't follow.
 
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bankside said:
I know I definitely have made up my mind, but I do change my mind often enough. The trouble is, I read your point and I don't know if I agree with it or disagree because I still don't get what the terms mean to you. The one thing that does stand out is I pretty much think "heterosexual culture" is what happens in a straight bar between men and women who are interested in each other. Everything else is just "culture." But the rest of your example I don't follow.
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It's pretty clear cut. Nothing complicated in the example.
 
mitchymo said:
SA tells you i'm a regular guy AND gay, rather than the offensive regular gay.
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I'm not exactly sure why "regular" is placed in contrast to "offensive" here, but since you're not coming back to post again, I guess there's no reason to question it.

Would a stereotypical "nerd" be somebody that could be considered "straight-acting", without being "masculine"?

Lex
 
G-Lexington said:
I'm not exactly sure why "regular" is placed in contrast to "offensive" here, but since you're not coming back to post again, I guess there's no reason to question it.

Would a stereotypical "nerd" be somebody that could be considered "straight-acting", without being "masculine"?

Lex
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In my experience...the guys who use SA will eventually slip and refer to themselves as "normal" which implies that other gay men who aren't SA are NOT normal. You don't even have to assume it "implies" that because they will usually slip again and say it themselves...

...and they refuse to see this...and they fool themselves...but they don't fool me or a lot of other people. The message is loud and clear if anyone is paying attention.
 
Somewhere in the depths of the other thread, somebody maintained "I don't feel superior to effeminate gay guys." And I responded that I was now to the point that I simply didn't believe it every time I heard it. I think people know it's the "right" thing to say, which is why we're hearing it a lot more now.

Lex
 
I am really confused now considering people implied that the people who don't like the term were effeminate and in the last thread masculinity was definitely a part of the topic.
 
I wouldn't say I don't LIKE the term, but I don't use it. And most people seem to think I fall on the masculine side.

Lex
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
I am really confused now considering people implied that the people who don't like the term were effeminate and in the last thread masculinity was definitely a part of the topic.
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I have no idea to whom directly you are speaking but if someone saying "I'm masculine" makes someone else say "that's a separation, I'm offended", it's not an unreasonable conclusion.

Though no I do not recall anyone saying "everyone with a problem with the term is femme." That's your inference.
 
It's really quite simple. "Straight acting" isn't referring to actual acting. It's referring to a gay guy who isn't obviously gay.

The term is meant as a positive thing. This is where those who are obviously gay take offense. They assume they're the negative side of this. This is where some people analyze something to death which really simply isn't about them.
 
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