POLL IT:- Straight-acting

[xbuzzerx]

This one - "straight-acting" - it the subject of this thread.

I was merely pointing out that you acting indignant that it might be a basis upon which someone might skip an ad is irrelevant to this specific term when they might equally do it for any other number of other keywords or qualities... or weights, races, heights, levels of attractiveness, fitness or whatever else.

 

[Kahaih]

I was merely pointing out that you acting indignant that it might be a basis upon which someone might skip an ad is irrelevant to this specific term when they might equally do it for any other number of other keywords or qualities... or weights, races, heights, levels of attractiveness, fitness or whatever else.

Calm down.

If you don't want to answer my question, or feel that you can't answer it in a diplomatic way, just say so.

 

[bankside]

The whole "self-conceptualizing" thing is overdone, I think.

If I wanted to explain myself to myself, I'd describe myself in a language I'd invent just for that purpose, that only I understood, and I'd write it down in a diary only I would read, and I'd never talk about it to anyone.

If I wanted to explain myself to any other human on the planet, I lose most of that control the minute a conversation begins. I have to take into account what words mean to others. I have to make myself intelligible to someone else. I can't just proclaim my own special meaning of words or say whatever "feels right for me." That isn't how conversation works. We inherit a language with meanings already in it. We can speak formally or casually. It isn't just about expressing our inner voice; it's about the skill with which we do it.

So from that, I realise when some people say they are "straight acting," they're just trying to describe something they observe about themselves in relation to others. I agree with JayHawk who said it wouldn't stop him from getting to know someone. But it still isn't a concept in a vacuum. It's a term with baggage that becomes obvious if you think about it for just a little bit. It doesn't seem like a very skillful self-description if you don't want people to misunderstand who you are. And there has to be a better word.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Could you be interested in an ad/date that self-described as 'straight-acting'? Would there be any hesitation?

Nope, at least without other context, it wouldn't by itself. (Cause hesitation.)

 

[cgymike]

I am requesting the other thread be closed and the discussion about straight acting be continued here. I don't see the need for two threads on the same subject.

 

[xbuzzerx]

The whole "self-conceptualizing" thing is overdone, I think.

If I wanted to explain myself to myself, I'd describe myself in a language I'd invent just for that purpose, that only I understood, and I'd write it down in a diary only I would read, and I'd never talk about it to anyone.

If I wanted to explain myself to any other human on the planet, I lose most of that control the minute a conversation begins. I have to take into account what words mean to others. I have to make myself intelligible to someone else. I can't just proclaim my own special meaning of words or say whatever "feels right for me." That isn't how conversation works. We inherit a language with meanings already in it. We can speak formally or casually. It isn't just about expressing our inner voice; it's about the skill with which we do it.

So from that, I realise when some people say they are "straight acting," they're just trying to describe something they observe about themselves in relation to others. I agree with JayHawk who said it wouldn't stop him from getting to know someone. But it still isn't a concept in a vacuum. It's a term with baggage that becomes obvious if you think about it for just a little bit. It doesn't seem like a very skillful self-description if you don't want people to misunderstand who you are. And there has to be a better word.

In the context of a dating app which is entirely where most of these discussions have resided, you're not going to be writing a dissertation about yourself. You're going to be conveying meaning in limited space.

I agree it's a limited description-- so is any one or two word description, so are drop-down options from menus to put yourself into a category. If one wanted to dissect anything from a very short sample of speech I'm sure they could probably do so.

Btw Bankside-- I don't "know who you are" from hearing that you're white or Canadian either. So perhaps you are overthinking and overjudging how much should properly be conveyed in any one or two word phrase we might start a JUB thread about.

 

[TX-Beau]

I'm very sorry Buzzer but SA is not some kind of "new" concept designed for apps. It's been around for decades used in the exactly the same way LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG before there ever was a grindr. You didn't think otherwise did you?

Yeah. I should probably keep this general 'cause I just got back from drinking and am apt to be very blunt.

Oh fuck it.

I am fucking AMUSED how very very very precious we all are over the sensitive constitutions of all those manly men. LOL "It's just how IIIIIIIIIIII define myself!" LOL

Please Nancy.

Y'all use it because you want to pretend you aren't faggots (thanks Youfiad! I'm glad the lot of you don't mind being called BIG 'OLE MARY FAGGOTS!!! Welcome)



Please.

 

[TX-Beau]

When I was in my 20's (thankfully not all that long ago) It used to be Straight acting/straight appearing (SA/SA) where oh where did the appearing go?

 

[xbuzzerx]

When I was in my 20's (thankfully not all that long ago) It used to be Straight acting/straight appearing (SA/SA) where oh where did the appearing go?

When you were in your 20's you were still you, and not me. So you don't get to speak for me or what I think.

 

[JayHawk]

When I was in my 20's (thankfully not all that long ago) It used to be Straight acting/straight appearing (SA/SA) where oh where did the appearing go?

After the emotional trauma of coming out you apparently developed a dislike for the term.

 

[TX-Beau]

Are you fucking kidding me? when in the closet one omits the 'Acting" altogether.

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One just pretends "straight."

 

[JayHawk]

SO whats different about you now? Thought process or behavior

 

[TX-Beau]

When you were in your 20's you were still you, and not me. So you don't get to speak for me or what I think.

Buzzer I expect more from you. This is a non statement. No one who dislikes the 'phobic term SA has told you shit to do with your life, or what to say. If you want to call yourself Bruce and dress up like cookie monster. Knock yourself out.

I generally just snicker at guys who call themselves SA.

In the meantime please address what I actually said or make another point.

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SO whats different about you now? Thought process or behavior

Really? I have to explain it?

 

[xbuzzerx]

Buzzer I expect more from you. This is a non statement. No one who dislikes the 'phobic term SA has told you shit to do with your life, or what to say. If you want to call yourself Bruce and dress up like cookie monster. Knock yourself out.

I generally just snicker at guys who call themselves SA.

In the meantime please address what I actually said or make another point.

Sorry, it was hard to sift through all of the mockery and pretentions of a conduit into my brain.

 

[Kahaih]

Nope, at least without other context, it wouldn't by itself. (Cause hesitation.)

Thanks for making your stand/feelings clearer for me. I really am interested.

And, it hadn't occurred to me that there would be 'drop down' boxes with pre-invented choices on these sites. I probably should have a look at some of them some day.

 

[TX-Beau]

Sorry, it was hard to sift through all of the mockery and pretentions of a conduit into my brain.

Conduit to your brain?

Do YOU call yourself straight acting?

 

[bankside]

In the context of a dating app which is entirely where most of these discussions have resided, you're not going to be writing a dissertation about yourself. You're going to be conveying meaning in limited space.

I agree it's a limited description-- so is any one or two word description, so are drop-down options from menus to put yourself into a category. If one wanted to dissect anything from a very short sample of speech I'm sure they could probably do so.

Btw Bankside-- I don't "know who you are" from hearing that you're white or Canadian either. So perhaps you are overthinking and overjudging how much should properly be conveyed in any one or two word phrase we might start a JUB thread about.

buzzer buzzer, we're either conveying meaning in a limited space, or acknowledging it is pointless to try to say anything meaningful in so few words. If "I'm straight acting" is worth saying at all, I'm going to go with "it means something," and then try to figure out what it means. If it was pointless to say anything, people would just write "Bazooka penguin orange asphalt ladle. Call me."

The fact that they pick words they intend to be meaningful means we get to decide what they mean.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Conduit to your brain?

Do YOU call yourself straight acting?

Someone else asked me this as well. My answer was that I doubt I could put my hand on a holy book and take an oath that I'd never said it, but I certainly can't recall using it or having it come up in a discussion very often.

That said, I don't make heavy use of personal ads, dating sites or apps. However I do regard myself as the sole judge and jury of how I think of myself or what I choose to call myself... just as you are for yourself.

 

[JayHawk]

Really? I have to explain it?

Nah mostly I am just busting your balls because your so flustered over other people having a different opinion. More of that 'I am a better fag than you' bullshit that was in the other thread.

I swear people will make up anything to tell themselves they are superior.

Conduit to your brain?

Do YOU call yourself straight acting?

nah I am not really into labels of any sort but I find emotion reactions to labels people choose just as ignorant.

 

[bankside]

"Bazooka penguin orange asphalt ladle. Call me."

By the way, sorry guys, I'm taken.

Bazooka penguin orange asphalt ladle.



















Sorry, I know I'm being a cock tease...