So, depression and suicide are NOT hot topics.

[johaninsc]

I know all too well about Depression its not easy being the only gay in the village.

no Davey, your village is full of gays


...it's just that when they see you coming they run and hide

 

[mikemizanin729]

Okayy.

I noticed that the thread only has three pages. Had it stayed here it would have had about seven by now.

 

[pat grimshaw]

I know all too well about Depression its not easy being the only gay in the village.

Yes. But Myfanwy is willing to listen and to help—

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I don't believe this to be true. Nobody in the village could possibly be a gay I'm the only one that's why i will never experience any bum fun I'm doomed to stay a virgin forever.

With all the homophobia out there I'm forced to marry a woman and live a lie. I even searched the internet and not a single gay website to be found.
I must be the only gay on the entire website.

no stops males world ova proud membas a plot lands a sign UN fa eons workins teys thang in on at throuew ova unda sideways ans etc etc on folk
maybe ya tinkin striaghtphobia or oda 1 or 1 a not on sale at mo or in plannin stage"

anyway

thankyou

 

[Native Son]

Where do I delete my account?

 

[rareboy]

Where do I delete my account?

Just run around tossing off the same shit as you did about a week ago and the Mods will take care of it for you.

BTW. The difference between you and Robin Williams? Robin will be missed by all of us.

 

[rareboy]

In relevant news...I have just heard on the radio that there has been a big uptick in the number of calls to suicide crisis help-lines over the last few days.....the bad news is that there is always an increase in suicides after a high profile death like Williams'...the good news is that his death has blown the closet door wide open.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Twitterers are angry that the police officer revealed personal details; two attempts on the wrist and then a trouser belt across the rafter; Williams and his wife lead separate lives.

The Twitterers are complaining that such personal details should be left unsaid.

 

[gsdx]

Okayy.

I noticed that the thread only has three pages. Had it stayed here it would have had about seven by now.

I think you've underestimated it. With the direction the thread is taking now, it could easily be in the double digits.

There are many misconceptions about depression, and that thread is proof positive.

I think we should petition the mods to move it back.

 

[palbert]

In relevant news...I have just heard on the radio that there has been a big uptick in the number of calls to suicide crisis help-lines over the last few days.....the bad news is that there is always an increase in suicides after a high profile death like Williams'...the good news is that his death has blown the closet door wide open.

The effect of suicide contagion appears to depend on how the media treats the suicide and whether the coverage includes avenues for help.

The Science Behind Suicide Contagion

Mental illness is not a communicable disease, but there’s a strong body of evidence that suicide is still contagious. Publicity surrounding a suicide has been repeatedly and definitively linked to a subsequent increase in suicide, especially among young people. Analysis suggests that at least 5 percent of youth suicides are influenced by contagion.

People who kill themselves are already vulnerable, but publicity around another suicide appears to make a difference as they are considering their options. The evidence suggests that suicide “outbreaks” and “clusters” are real phenomena; one death can set off others. There’s a particularly strong effect from celebrity suicides.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/14/upshot/the-science-behind-suicide-contagion.html?ref=us

 

[pat grimshaw]

This is a bit spooky. (I always feel a bit spooked when I see myself on TV)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/robin-williams-family-guy-episode-4040030

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

The Science Behind Suicide Contagion

planet run by toons fa eons ans public of supa eva no idea wot feet is
it a world supa nogs wanna get bonus doins nothin work on why millions no OPT OUT

sicnece HAAAAAAAAAAA

got luv intenret 2

thankyou

 

[mikey3000]

Funny, I can say the same thing about the Celeb forum that YOU frequent all the time, because nothing says "seeking attention" like sharing the lust of the hive mind. And that rings 100% in the Show Yourself Off forum, where mostly everyone "just turned" 18 or is "straight/curious, but please talk about how big and beautiful my dick is... I mean, you'll never get to touch it but I REALLY wanna know that gay men like just my dick!".

So, you know, maybe it's not so difficult to see why people - like you, for instance - seek so much attention from total strangers on a gay porn website. That YOU signed up for.

Since when? We've been discussing both the serious and the lighthearted since I joined 8 years ago.

That didn't answer the question. So you can lose the sarcasm.

Wow. Talk about sarcasm Chill out man.

 

[Kulindahr]

Telstra, I think you are mistaken about the mechanisms of depression.

Offering him another mansion for free would not have caused him to stop and say "Oh, well that's better! I'd better go on living now! Thanks!"

Depression is more like diabetes. In some cases, you can manage your thoughts and emotions, just like a diabetic can manage their sugar intake through a careful diet. If so, depression may not bother you and may not even really sway the course of your life once it is identified and managed.

However for others it is more chaotic, and, just like an insulin dependent diabetic must have medical support to survive, people can't just will depression away or go without treatment. And, just like a diabetic can be caught off guard and drive off the road, a person with depression can be caught off guard and struggle to overcome its effects.

It's important to note that a person with depression is like a person with diabetes: even when it is well managed, they still have the disease. The parts of the brain that deal with self-preservation, experience of happiness, calm or contentment, perspective, resiliency, the ability to get outside one's own head, all of those can be as vulnerable as the pancreas of a person with diabetes.

In serious clinical depression, being offered a(nother) mansion for free would be highly likely to actually make the depression worse. It isn't a situation where you can hand the sufferer something lovely or inspiring and it will lift him up, because the nature of depression is that everything it touches becomes negative.

It's utterly unlike ordinary "depression", which really doesn't deserve the name. Ordinary depression stems from some event which impacted the person negatively, and can be alleviated by dealing with the negative aspects; clinical depressive episodes require no cause at all. It's not unlike having an IV tap in your arm, and an invisible drug freak can use it to inject you with a downer on a whim -- sometimes those whims have a trigger, but sometimes they're just out of the blue.

I've been in depression such that if I'd won, say, eighty million dollars in a lottery, my suicide risk would have gone up, not down. Now, if you can grasp how that could be, you have some understanding of depression; if not, remain silent and try to learn.

 

[Kulindahr]

2. Moving a thread is perfectly fine. This is the reason there are so many Forum titles. People need to realize there are different headings.

People get to start their topic where they'd like to see it discussed -- that is why there are different forums. Moving a thread should only be done when it just cannot fit where it's been put.

The only reason people start threads in HT is because they seek (and probably, desperately NEED) attention from total strangers on a gay porn website. Total...strangers...on...a...gay...porn...website.

Difficult to ascertain why so many seek attention from total strangers on a porn website...

What a shallow view of things.

 

[Kulindahr]

HT is not a serious forum. The aforementioned topics are and shouldn't be exposed to its levity. Granted this is the most viewed forum and that is the reason so many decline to post in the others, but I have never abused it in that way. Others shouldn't either.

There have been plenty of serious threads in Hot Topics. That the vast majority are shallow and meaningless does not preclude having a thread about a topic that is hot just because it has substance.

 

[Kulindahr]

Oh well apparently you missed the OP. I suggest you read it.

It's a serious post. Should it be moved?

 

[mikemizanin729]

There are many misconceptions about depression, and that thread is proof positive.

I think we should petition the mods to move it back.

Would a petition make them listen? I believe it belongs in HT but I doubt they will ever move it back now.

 

[Kulindahr]

Anyway...

Where is the Robin Williams thread...???

Oh, there it is, in the...MALE CELEBS Forum...!!! Wow, who would have thought?!?!? After all, RW was a male and he was a celeb, soooo...

On a serious note, why has no one started a Depression and Suicide thread in the H&W Forum...??? (As of 8/13/2014)

How shallow can you be?

President Obama can be considered a celeb -- should all threads about him go to the Celeb forum?

What if you have a celeb who runs in an election and is about to win when his wife dies and he's stricken with health issues because of grief? It has to go in the Celeb forum because it's about a celebrity, but it has to be in Current Events and Politics because he's in politics, but it has to go in the Health and Well-Being forum....

Requiring every thread that happens to involve a celebrity to go into the Celeb forum is like a real estate agent listing houses by their color: it focuses on a minor attribute and ignores the substance.

 

[Kulindahr]

Would a petition make them listen? I believe it belongs in HT but I doubt they will ever move it back now.

Start it on Change.org.