So whose fault is it? [Trump presidency]

[TX-Beau]

Well, if they are here illegally, whatever whatever about the suburbs of Austin. They are still illegal.
Trot your happy self into Mexico without a passport... Used to be if you were more than 50 miles from the border you went to jail. In Mexico.
I remember when Wells Branch Parkway was a big deal. And across I-35 there were cattle right there at Highland Mall. And Burnet Road and 183 was a four way stop sign.
I don't live in Austin anymore. I miss 1980-ish Austin hugely. I got out of there in 1993.

Please, I grew up with migrant labor and nobody got arrested until right wing racists made it a political whine to scare other racists to the polls.

 

[fredroy]

There ya go. Deflecting. I grew up near La Joya and went to high school there. Back when it was a 2A school. No one there or in Edinburg or McAllen that I ever knew like the cheaters.

You seem to just make stuff up.

 

[Norri]

Scratch her. This was before The Evil Orange Demon rode down his escalator. Just for all of the spittle and screaming on the TV, if he's so so so horrible, I'm gonna vote for him. Maybe a change would be good.
I don't recall ever seeing The Apprentice because I was doing shit like working.

I simply don't get the hate for Trump from the Left. I suppose he couldn't be bought. I think that's a good thing. Shrug.

I don’t hate Trump from the left I just hate him. And it’s not because of his politics or any policies, It’s because he is an alpha male with a zero sum world view meaning there is no place for you or any of his followers in his world. A pal of mine who likes and voted for Trump once asked me if I thought he was racist I told him before he could be racist he would have to consider people of other races and since I don’t believe he considers people of his own race to be his equal oddly enough I don’t think he is a racist.

And if you don’t think he can be bought please pay closer attention. As long as there people with more money than him he can be bought.

Finally to answer the question that started this thread no need analyze anything or look for conspiracies the fault lies with the morons who voted for him and no one else.

 

[fredroy]

I don’t hate Trump from the left I just hate him. And it’s not because of his politics or any policies, It’s because he is an alpha male with a zero sum world view meaning there is no place for you or any of his followers in his world. A pal of mine who likes and voted for Trump once asked me if I thought he was racist I told him before he could be racist he would have to consider people of other races and since I don’t believe he considers people of his own race to be his equal oddly enough I don’t think he is a racist.

And if you don’t think he can be bought please pay closer attention. As long as there people with more money than him he can be bought.

Finally to answer the question that started this thread no need analyze anything or look for conspiracies the fault lies with the morons who voted for him and no one else.

So voting for Hillery because "it's her turn" and not for some billionaire real estate asshole yankee is what all good citizens should have done? I disagree.

 

[DantheManFL]

Dang.... Put Trump's name in the title and they all crawl out from under their rocks.

That's all. I don't want to get in on this mess.

 

[johaninsc]

Wow... been a while since the ban hammer's been activated.

Sorry I missed it...

 

[johaninsc]

Dang.... Put Trump's name in the title and they all crawl out from under their rocks.

That's all. I don't want to get in on this mess.

I cannot understand for the life of me how anyone of the LGBTQ+ community could even possibly support Trump and the Magat party.

 

[ravenstone]

Wow... been a while since the ban hammer's been activated.

Sorry I missed it...

When Trump is restored in 2025 remember this attitude helped get him there. This my way or you are evil does not win elections.

 

[ravenstone]

To help readers better understand; please explain how a radical Trans activist is different from a regular (non-radical) Trans activist.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/15/news/...ed-pool-locker-room-with-young-girls-at-race/
Audtey Hale and her manifesto the MSM hid from the publc,, they should have reported it and tried to explain what led up to her doing it. The manifesto was leaked all over twitter and people think worse of it because the MSM covered it up. The drag parade in NYC last year with hundreds of people marching and shouting Were coming for your kids. I realize they did it in jest but people with kids do not know that. Trans people should have the same protections as any one else.

 

[rareboy]

So you blame trans people for Trump?

 

[opinterph]

this attitude

Behavior can be objectively observed and classified. Someone else’s attitude, on the other hand, is a state of mind that cannot be measured or quantified. Claiming to understand another person’s attitude is always a subjective assumption.

Do not assume that you understand why the member was banned. The related content has been removed from the public forum.

 

[bendted]

Do not assume that you understand why the member was banned.

He's referring to the attitude of 99.99999999999999999999999% of forum members here who have "TDS" and are blinded by it, NOT a specific member.

Quoting Rav: This my way or you are evil does not win elections.

He is absolutely correct and it results in candidates who come up short not to mention breeds odd balls like RFK.

 

[opinterph]

https://nypost.com/2023/12/15/news/...ed-pool-locker-room-with-young-girls-at-race/
Audtey Hale and her manifesto the MSM hid from the publc,, they should have reported it and tried to explain what led up to her doing it. The manifesto was leaked all over twitter and people think worse of it because the MSM covered it up. The drag parade in NYC last year with hundreds of people marching and shouting Were coming for your kids. I realize they did it in jest but people with kids do not know that. Trans people should have the same protections as any one else.

• The article you linked does not seem to have any relation to the text you added in your post. I suspect you provided the wrong link.
• I don’t think it is reasonable to regard Audrey Hale as an activist.
• The MSM did not hide Hale’s manifesto. Rather, they complied with the judge’s order in the case. A federal judge later ordered the FBI to hand over the manifesto on the basis that the public has a right to know its contents.
• Snopes points out that “fewer than a dozen of the many people seen in the video appear to be chanting at all” – not hundreds as your post suggests. It is also germane that the incident occurred at the NYC Drag March last year – not a trans event as your response to the quoted text would anticipate.

 

[opinterph]

He's referring to the attitude of 99.99999999999999999999999% of forum members here who have "TDS" and are blinded by it, NOT a specific member.

Again, attitude is a subjective assumption. Personal commentary that attempts to characterize other participants in CE&P is not desired. Posts in this sub-forum should address the topic of discussion – not each other.

Refer to the section titled, “COURTESY & RESPECT” in the CE&P Posting Guidelines.

 

[ravenstone]

• The article you linked does not seem to have any relation to the text you added in your post. I suspect you provided the wrong link.
• I don’t think it is reasonable to regard Audrey Hale as an activist.
• The MSM did not hide Hale’s manifesto. Rather, they complied with the judge’s order in the case. A federal judge later ordered the FBI to hand over the manifesto on the basis that the public has a right to know its contents.
• Snopes points out that “fewer than a dozen of the many people seen in the video appear to be chanting at all” – not hundreds as your post suggests. It is also germane that the incident occurred at the NYC Drag March last year – not a trans event as your response to the quoted text would anticipate.

I am not saying it is true, to people who don't believe every word the MSM says they believe it was hidden. The videos of the march shown all over the web including Twitter make it look like everyone was going along and they zoom in on Transsexuals and drag queens with beards. Is it right they do that no. Does it scare people who don't know any better yes. There needs to be a lot more education, The article shows where a 50-year-old man showers and competes with underage teenage girls, and most people outside of the Gay community and some in it think that should be illegal. I don't know what the answer is, but I think this issue will help put Trump in the White House. Biden did push the Trans agenda hard. I am sure I will be banned also, just remember not everyone lives in a fantasy world where everything is perfect all the time. 4 years of Trump with this SCOTUS and maybe you might see things a little differently.

 

[opinterph]

Just a note here.

John Pavlovitz [Wiki]​

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North Carolina Christian pastor writes piercing open letter to Hillary Clinton (Daily Kos; December 2016)​

 

[rareboy]

I am not saying it is true, to people who don't believe every word the MSM says they believe it was hidden. The videos of the march shown all over the web including Twitter make it look like everyone was going along and they zoom in on Transsexuals and drag queens with beards. Is it right they do that no. Does it scare people who don't know any better yes. There needs to be a lot more education, The article shows where a 50-year-old man showers and competes with underage teenage girls, and most people outside of the Gay community and some in it think that should be illegal. I don't know what the answer is, but I think this issue will help put Trump in the White House. Biden did push the Trans agenda hard. I am sure I will be banned also, just remember not everyone lives in a fantasy world where everything is perfect all the time. 4 years of Trump with this SCOTUS and maybe you might see things a little differently.

Ah yes....the 'Trans Agenda' again.

I remember simpler times from the 70's to the 2000's when all we had to be afraid of was the 'Homosexual Agenda' being the ultimate threat to public order and safety and the reason liberals had to be quiet.

And wait, I also remember when it was Biden's comments on gay marriage that triggered Obama's 'evolution' on the topic and the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

And now this year, it was again Biden who formally pardoned all homosexual service members who had been dishonourably discharged from the Forces......once again putting the 'Gay Agenda' in front of the Country.

I am so glad that the fairies who fought back art Stonewall had no fear of fighting for basic civil rights instead of hiding in the closet like so many would still have us all do.

 

[rareboy]

To correct the above I meant that I remembered the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, not as a result of Biden's comments, but as a milestone by the Democrats in shoving the oh so scary radical homosexual rights agenda down the throats of right wingers.

And of course Obergefell, which has led to the invalidation of heterosexual marriage in the US and to people marrying animals.

Certainly, that is how it was (is?) painted by all the right wingers decrying the radical homosexual agenda of the apparently highly organized 'Radical Homosexual' cabal.

You know, the same ones saying that trans people have a valid right to exist.

 

[Caracara]

As to the Electoral College... I'm no scholar of early American history, but the same issues of representation were troubling to the early framers as well. How to balance the voice and votes of urban voters with those of their rural compatriots. The smaller states had to be made feel that their citizens votes weren't going to be overwhelmed by the those of larger states and populations. The urban-rural divide has always been there.

If we go to direct popular vote, it's likely thar large urban centers will decide the election in most cases.

Here's another thought- the 2000 election was marred by the discrepancy of the votes in one county in one state.

Imagine an election where the difference in the vote count 34,000- in a country of millions of voters. This would likely trigger a recount- so would every vote in the county need to be recounted? What if the difference were 6,000? Would we all have to vote again?

One citizen one vote in 5th century Athens may have worked well. How do we manage that on such a large scale?

 

[TX-Beau]

As to the Electoral College... I'm no scholar of early American history, but the same issues of representation were troubling to the early framers as well. How to balance the voice and votes of urban voters with those of their rural compatriots. The smaller states had to be made feel that their citizens votes weren't going to be overwhelmed by the those of larger states and populations. The urban-rural divide has always been there.

If we go to direct popular vote, it's likely thar large urban centers will decide the election in most cases.

Here's another thought- the 2000 election was marred by the discrepancy of the votes in one county in one state.

Imagine an election where the difference in the vote count 34,000- in a country of millions of voters. This would likely trigger a recount- so would every vote in the county need to be recounted? What if the difference were 6,000? Would we all have to vote again?

One citizen one vote in 5th century Athens may have worked well. How do we manage that on such a large scale?

The Electoral college and "representation" issue stripped of all the fancy language at core is about agribusiness slave states with low populations being afraid that their slaves would be voted away by industrial Northern states with large populations.

As we can see, the fundamental consequence of its existence is still going strong today.