"The Age Of Ann Is Over"

[Andreus]

theres a serious point here that i have to answer

i couldnt take the time earlier as i had a docs apointment...

saying that shariia law will be enacted in europe is so very out there.... it so reeks of the politics of fear, that it is disturbing

lets be clear here

there are only seven nations in the world that have these laws now and they are quickly losing their relevance in the muslim world.

Muslims do not seek shariia.... fundamentalists and conservatives of all kinds seek social controll through the manipulation of religion as a means of suppresion, though.

there is no place for these things in europe due to the set of EU treaties that forbid it, not even mentioning all the individual national documents and constitutions that make it imposible. Undoing these treaties is posible, but so improbable that to say that they could reflects an absolute inablity to understand how Europe is governed and the mentality of its populace.

THe USA under Bush has tried to use religion to suppress not only the population of america, but the world as well.

if anyone is in danger of religious fundamentalism taking root and destroying the american democracy, it is the modern republican party of the USA and its global allies, NOT ISLAM.

 

[Kulindahr]

im a muslim

BOOO

imma run ya over, girl!!!

You're such a tease!

if bush is so wonderful, his war has gone so well, and is so damned nessesary, then please tell me how all these things are posible.

Are you answering the same post you responded to? This doesn't address anything of what he said.

the demise of american values began with the patriot act, continued when the comander in cheif lied to kill his daddy's enemy, saddam, and continues for as long as americans torture foreign citizens while detaining them.

The demise of American values began... well, FDR was the first big move, and since then it's hard to think of a president who hasn't played the game. Bush is extremely high on the list, though.

 

[Kulindahr]

Better yet, why don't you get back to me in...oh...a few decads or so when America is reaping the effects of the european values that you so support. Get back to me when America is completely socialist, with a crumbling economy and all opportunity is gone.
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That is why I can never get Gay's who votes Democrat. The Democrats promise you a ring on you're left hand and a government check in the mail, for what in exchange? The demise of America and all the freedoms that allow you to be who you are. I swear, liberalism will only ultimately lead to the destruction of western civilization.

I snipped the silliness about Muslims taking over in Europe and America. Oh, it's remotely possible, but so is a black comet catching us unawares and the earth being saved only because the comet hits the moon instead and breaks it in two....

It is not unlikely that "liberalism will only ultimately lead to the destruction of western civilization". But to keep on the course Bush has forged ahead upon, building on the work of predecessors, will destroy it more surely and more quickly. Liberal government will make use of police states, but don't often enthusiastically build them. People like Ashcroft and the others Bush has surrounded himself with love police states, though, and will build them with zeal even without any perceived need -- they build police states like I go to the beach: because they/I can.
Most likely is a combination of the two -- authoritarians from both sides denouncing the other, then using what the other has built, until a citizen can hardly step out the door without violating some regulation, and being turned into a revolving-door prisoner because of that lack of liberty.

This is why I'm watching the new Congress closely: if they have the courage to dismantle the oppressive things Bush set up and even a few more, we can all breathe easier. But if they just leave it... well, then they're the same thing he is, really.

 

[Kulindahr]

Nah, Lincoln was the first big move.

I'll see you Lincoln and raise you Washington: the Whiskey Rebellion and the use of federal troops to attack American citizens.

 

[chance1]

Imagine a post discussing ann coulter

as if .....................

 

[Kulindahr]

The Iron Age just sort of rusted away.

 

[OtterJoq]

The Iron Age just sort of rusted away.

You nailed it!

 

[chance1]

Why? Look at the threat title---that age is over. Do you want us to talk about the Iron Age as if it matters any longer?

She's a fringe loon

Too bad - she actually is smart

She gets off on being outrageous - it sells - another capitalist - LOL

she is not a spokesperson

what I love is that ann's counterparts on the left are heroes

it's too funny really

should I start a thread about al sharpton? just for example

if I did, he'd get defended by the same group here giving ann the biz

you know it's true

 

[texpatriot]

She's a fringe loon


Too bad - she actually is smart

She gets off on being outrageous - it sells - another capitalist - LOL

she is not a spokesperson

what I love is that ann's counterparts on the left are heroes

it's too funny really

should I start a thread about al sharpton? just for example

if I did, he'd get defended by the same group here giving ann the biz

you know it's true

So is a Madonna! Last I checked she's not a spokesperson either. But like Anne Coulter people give her a lot of credit that she probably doesn't deserve.

However Madonna challenged sexual taboos, and other topics, without denegrating various groups who disagreed with her opinion.

Repeat after me Chance:

Madonna Good! Coulter Bad!

See that wasn't so bad now was it?


An Al Sharpton Thread?

Why stop there?

Go ahead and bring up Jesse Jackson while you're at it too!

This Democrat has some not so savory things to say about those so called "Black Leaders."

But that's, as you said, another thread.

 

[Andreus]

Ann Coulter in her own words

just so we know what the republicans find funny and humorous here....



"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97

"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97

"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00

"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

"I think [Whitewater]'s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate."---Rivera Live 3/12/99

"My track record is pretty good on predictions."---Rivera Live 12/8/98

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97
"You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard."---Washington Post 10/16/98

 

[chance1]

Chance, I'm not sure what's stopping you from making a Sharpton thread. If you can make the case that a comparison of Ann Coulter and Al Sharpton is entirely fair, and not libelous, then I hope I catch the opportunity to read your argument.

My feeling is that Sharpton is not worth the effort

and neither is Ann

 

[Kulindahr]

I say...

right

on both counts.

 

[NickCole]

The Republican sense of humor.

Courtesy of Andrew Sullivan's website:

The right's pathologies do not seem to be abating. Here's an another attempt at humor, from Townhall.com, a column titled, "How To Bomb A Gay Bathhouse":

Here's what [Coulter] should do immediately:​

1. Start a website called 'Global War on Fags' today.​

2. Begin writing essays calling for the cleansing and purification of society via the mass murder of homosexuals.​

3. Distribute videos on the website showing the actual murders of homosexuals.​

4. Circulate instructions on how to bomb gay bath houses in San Francisco.​

5. Circulate a 'battle dispatch' to give people specific information on America's most notorious bath houses.​

The punch-line follows. I'm not making this up. The column is the "second hottest" on the site.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

 

[Centexfarmer]

Don't stop there Nick!

Let's read what Author of the peice has to say in it's entirety:

How to bomb a gay bath house
By Mike S. Adams
Wednesday, March 14, 2007


I’ve been thinking about Ann Coulter a lot lately – a real shocker, I know - and I think I’ve finally found a way to get her out of the hot water she’s in over her recent outing of John Edwards. Before I reveal just what she ought to do, I have an obligation to tell her what not to do – especially since she’s getting such bad advice from other conservatives.

The first thing Ann should not do is heed calls that she apologize for using the term “faggot.” The last time I heard that word, I was helping move a friend into his new house in downtown Wilmington. The next door neighbor, who happened to be gay, had us over to grab something to eat and drink.

When someone asked our host the name of the style he used to decorate the living room, his reply was “Early 20th Century Colonial Faggot.” He made the joke partially because he had a few too many drinks before his guests arrived. But he also did it because many homosexuals have never really aspired to the goal of making everyone feel as comfortable as they feel they have a right to feel at all times.

A friend of mine – one who “came out of the closet” over a decade ago - often used the term “faggot” when he was angry at someone. He used the term long after he decided he was gay. But it never occurred to anyone within earshot that a word banning ritual or forced apology was in order.

Put simply, it is permissible for heterosexuals to use the term “faggot” because so many homosexuals use it all the time. The only rebuttal I’ve heard is that the same cannot be said with regard to the use of the “n-word.” This is an unspeakable insult to black people. Gay persecution does not rival black persecution in the annals (I could not find a better word to insert here) of American history. Any assertion to the contrary is simply too queer to take seriously.

Speaking of the term “queer,” Ann should realize that the term “faggot” will soon be deemed acceptable for everyone’s use in the eyes of the diversity movement. Recall that the term “queer” was once acceptable in America – certainly you remember playing “smear the queer” in grade school. After years of banning the term, the Diversity Offices are now establishing “Queer Resource Centers” on college campuses. And they let you call them that even if you aren’t a queer.

Before long, the executives of Diversity Incorporated – the people who really run this country – will again let us use the term “faggot.” The switch will be necessary because a) Diversity Incorporated makes all of its money on diversity training classes (read: shakedown seminars) in corporate America, and b) these classes are nothing more than a recitation of currently banned words and ideas. (Hence the need to constantly update the list even if it means regressing and calling it “progress”.)

Perhaps the most compelling reason for Ann to refrain from issuing an apology is that it might send the message that homosexuality is somehow “wrong.” Those saying that the implication that Edwards is a homosexual is “defamatory” are suggesting that homosexuality is “bad.” This flies in the face of the teachings of the official religion of the Diversity Movement, which is, of course, moral relativism.

Every time I get into a discussion about homosexuality I am accused of being “secretly gay.” When the accuser is strait, he shows how much he secretly hates homosexuals. When the accuser is gay, he shows how much he secretly hates himself. Ann should not mimic this hatred by apologizing for something Leftists do regularly and unapologetically.

But enough about what Ann ought not to do. Here’s what she should do immediately:

1. Start a website called “Global War on Fags” today.

2. Begin writing essays calling for the cleansing and purification of society via the mass murder of homosexuals.

3. Distribute videos on the website showing the actual murders of homosexuals.

4. Circulate instructions on how to bomb gay bath houses in San Francisco.

5. Circulate a “battle dispatch” to give people specific information on America’s most notorious bath houses.

6. Apply for a job at Kent State University.

At first, the cries for Ann Coulter’s imprisonment will be loud. But once Kent State gets wind of the story (and possession of her job application) a happy ending will soon be in sight (not incite). In fact, I predict that Ann will soon be a professor at Kent State University with good retirement benefits, a health plan, and tenure.
The current Coulter controversy provides more than a good job opportunity for Ann Coulter. It gives Kent State a chance to show its dedication to the First Amendment, not just Muslim extremism.



Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Welcome to the Ivory Tower of Babel: Confessions of a Conservative College Professor.

I guess it's his attempt at being "ironical."

 

[Kulindahr]

Either there's something subtle going on in that piece, that I'm missing, or it's just weird.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Either there's something subtle going on in that piece, that I'm missing, or it's just weird.

Alex I'll take weird for $1,000

 

[Kulindahr]

Alex I'll take weird for $1,000

DING!

It's the DAILY DOUBLE!!!!

 

[star-warrior]

Don't stop there Nick!

Let's read what Author of the peice has to say in it's entirety:

Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Welcome to the Ivory Tower of Babel: Confessions of a Conservative College Professor.

I guess it's his attempt at being "ironical."

It's true. American's do irony rather poorly.

 

[darcey]

All people should support the exchange of ideas. However, when one denegrates the opposition w/ epithets, start doubting their views. If one won't respect their opponents then they may not even respect the ideals they use against them. Respect for all humankind is basic to all people worth listening to or following. Poor Annie is just a bit too outrageous to be "real".

 

[Kulindahr]

All people should support the exchange of ideas. However, when one denegrates the opposition w/ epithets, start doubting their views. If one won't respect their opponents then they may not even respect the ideals they use against them. Respect for all humankind is basic to all people worth listening to or following. Poor Annie is just a bit too outrageous to be "real".

Very astute.
If only a large portion of participants in this forum would take heed....