The expanding Israel-Hamas war

[rareboy]

And I guess the genocide and destruction was just the pretext for Trump announcing that the US is going to level Gaza and re-develop it.

In one fell swoop, Trump has put a target on every US asset inside and outside Gaza.

I guess AIPAC is getting what they paid for?

US imperialism.

And again, I refuse to believe that senior members of Congress were not warned that Trump would announce the theft of Gaza from the Palestinians by the US (on behalf of Israel)

Al Green has filed articles of impeachment against Trump for the ethnic cleansing policy in Gaza.

Of course, unfortunately, since the US doesn't recognize the ICC, TrumpCo. will never be subject to war crimes charges in the the Hague.

More to come.

 

[rareboy]

Obscenity piled upon obscenity.

And where is the Senate? And Congress?

 

[rareboy]

So...will there be the same kinds of demonstrations against Trump on college and university campuses and in the community that they all threw for Biden and Harris to respond to?

Or now that the election is over and their personal data is now in the hands of MuskCo., will students actually fear for their academic futures?

And is the provocation a pretext for Trump being able to call out the military against protestors and declare a national emergency that will allow him to seize total power for the Executive Branch, backed up by the military?

 

[KaraBulut]

So...will there be the same kinds of demonstrations against Trump on college and university campuses and in the community that they all threw for Biden and Harris to respond to?

Or now that the election is over and their personal data is now in the hands of MuskCo., will students actually fear for their academic futures?

And is the provocation a pretext for Trump being able to call out the military against protestors and declare a national emergency that will allow him to seize total power for the Executive Branch, backed up by the military?

They know what is coming. Mango Mussolini is already encouraging campuses to "monitor" campus protests.

Trump to urge universities to 'monitor,' 'report' Israel-Hamas protesters

President Donald Trump's executive order calls on institutions of higher education are called on to "monitor for and report activities by alien students and staff."

abcnews.go.com

Lawsuits have already started:

ACLU sues Univ. of Mich. over campus bans for pro-Palestinian protesters

Trespass bans have upended individuals' "daily lives, disrupted their, education and work, and are blocking their ability to speak and protest freely on the University's vast campus," according to the lawsuit.

firstamendment.mtsu.edu

 

[rareboy]

And again, the Republicans are playing all sides on the announcement of ethnic cleansing, occupation and seizing control of Gaza.

Republicans Break With Trump On Proposed Gaza Takeover—Here’s What To Know

“Obviously it’s not going to happen. I don’t know under what circumstance it would make sense even,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters.

www.forbes.com

They really are repugnant.

 

[rareboy]

So all the MAGAts who were expressing concern about 'bad' treatment of Jewish students on US college campuses a month or two ago hopefully realize that Trump, with his obscene proposal has mow really painted a target on their backs.

He has stripped the Jews of any moral authority on the issue of Gaza by framing it as a scorched earth redevelopment deal that robs the Palestinians of the last of the coastal concentration camps that Israel had forced them into.

This is on Trump voters.

It brings the US as close as possible to boots on the ground, an intractable war and even WWIII.

Sleep tight.

 

[KaraBulut]

Buyer's remorse. American Arabs who boycotted voting for Harris: "We feel betrayed". "Oh, he doesn't mean it- it's just a negotiating tactic."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/05/us/video/dearborn-michigan-gaza-trump-reaction-carroll-digvid

 

[rareboy]

Buyer's remorse. American Arabs who boycotted voting for Harris: "We feel betrayed". "Oh, he doesn't mean it- it's just a negotiating tactic."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/05/us/video/dearborn-michigan-gaza-trump-reaction-carroll-digvid

There is no negotiating tactic. Right wing Israeli's, AIPAC donors and Jared Kushner are slavering over redeveloping Gaza as a Gold Coast for Zion. The Us owns this whole mess by the way for decades of coddling the Zionists for votes and for financing and enabling an utterly asymmetrical holocaust of Palestinians forced into ever smaller and smaller areas by naked theft of land.

But the American supporters played so easily into the hands of TrumpCo. because they did that thing that American Dems always do....unless everything is perfect for each group, they will refuse to vote as some kind of bizarre protest that signals their virtue and moral high ground.

To all the Palestinian supporters who now feel betrayed? Fuck off.

 

[TX-Beau]

Yeah, I don't know what those people in HI think Toad is negotiating for, Netanyahu is doing precisely as he pleases, and Toad isn't going to interfere.

It all comes back to the Black VAGINA.

 

[KaraBulut]

And for the record: 80,013 votes. It would not have changed the overall outcome but with Biden's and Harris' vocal support of the unions, it was an insult to lose Michigan. And a lot of the loss can be traced to the Arab-American turnout and those who "protest" voted against Harris.

 

[Dargelos]

Would you accept a pager from Bibi, even a gold plated one?

 

[KaraBulut]

Would you accept a pager from Bibi, even a gold plated one?

I would and then I would give it to Trump, then run for cover.

 

[KaraBulut]

Buried in the distractions today...

American allies in the middle east have called for meetings of leaders of Arab countries to discuss Trump's threats to send American troops to take over Gaza.

Egypt announces emergency Arab summit after Trump's Gaza plan infuriates key allies

Egypt has announced it will host an emergency Arab summit on Feb. 27 to discuss “new and dangerous developments” after U.S.

apnews.com

Egypt announced Sunday that it will host an emergency Arab summit on Feb. 27 to discuss “new and dangerous developments” after U.S. President Donald Trump proposed to resettle Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

Trump’s suggestion, made at a White House meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week, infuriated the Arab world, including Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia — key allies of Washington.

Both Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi and Jordanian King Abdullah II dismissed Trump’s call to resettle 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza and for the U.S. to take ownership of the enclave, but Trump claims that they would eventually accept it.

From Germany:

Scholz describes Trump’s Gaza plans as a scandal

Donald Trump plans to bring the Gaza Strip under US control and resettle hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Chancellor Scholz finds this outrageous.

www.deutschland.de

“Resettling the population is not acceptable and contravenes international law,” Scholz said yesterday during a TV debate with the CDU candidate Friedrich Merz (photo). Merz said he shared the Chancellor’s view, and added that Trump’s gambit was just one of a series of baffling proposals made by the US administration. “We will have to wait and see what is actually meant seriously and how it will be implemented. There’s probably a good deal of rhetoric going on here, too,” he said.

Turkey, ostensibly an American ally, also weighed in after Trump's latest babblefest. Erdoğan's statement (translated):

Erdoğan'dan Trump'ın teklifine tepki: 'Gazzelileri vatanından çıkarmaya kimsenin gücü yetmez' - BBC News Türkçe

Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, ABD Başkanı Donald Trump'ın ABD'nin Gazze'de "yönetimi devralacağı" yönündeki açıklamalarına tepki gösterdi. Asya ziyareti öncesinde Atatürk Havalimanı'nda konuşan Erdoğan, "Siyonist yönetimin baskısıyla yeni ABD yönetiminin Gazze ile ilgili gündeme getirdiği...

www.bbc.com

"The proposals which have been put forward by the new US administration with regard to Gaza pressure, made under pressure from the Zionist regime [in Israel] are from our perspective, not worth discussion. No one has the power to remove the people of Gaza from their eternal homeland, a homeland which has existed for thousands of years. Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as Palestine, belong to the Palestinians."

Saudi Arabia was more cautious, blaming Israel for Trump's statements:

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2589534/saudi-arabia

Saudi Arabia on Sunday reiterated its categorical rejection of statements regarding the displacement of the Palestinian people from their land, particularly those made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Kingdom’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it rejected “such statements that aim to divert attention from the continuous crimes committed by the Israeli occupation against the Palestinian brothers in Gaza, including the ethnic cleansing they are subjected to.”

The ministry likewise expressed its appreciation of the “condemnation, disapproval and total rejection announced by the brotherly countries” regarding the Israeli leader’s comments.

 

[KaraBulut]

Fun Fact: King Abdullah II of Jordan is married to Rania Al-Yassin, a Jordanian of Palestinian descent. Trump basically said, "I'm going to take your wife's ancestral country and turn it into a Trump resort full of Jews."

 

[rareboy]

I swear...Trump will drag the US into an intractable world war.

Or is it actually about fulfilling the wet dream of the christian nationalists that now have control over the country.

Funny how all the voices here and other social media sites saying that the US has no business in Ukraine are suddenly silent when it comes to cultural and ethnic genocide and Trump saying the US will put troops in Gaza.

 

[KaraBulut]

...Funny how all the voices here and other social media sites saying that the US has no business in Ukraine are suddenly silent when it comes to cultural and ethnic genocide and Trump saying the US will put troops in Gaza.

Why do I think all those campus protests that Republicans were beating up university presidents over last year are going to turn out to be a Russia generated social media campaign?

 

[rareboy]

Or equally possible, a GQP generated social media campaign.

It is so easy to incite protest as we've seen before.

What is also disturbing is that the rest of pro-palestinian Americans seem largely silent on the entire matter in the media and on the streets.

Except for some muttering about feeling betrayed by TrumpCo. if they voted for him...where is the backlash against what he is proposing?

Again, every time he opens his mouth to babble about America taking over Gaza and pushing the Palestinians out, he makes every American interest and individuals abroad targets for terrorism.

 

[KaraBulut]

It is so easy to incite protest as we've seen before.

There's a British miniseries called, "The Undeclared War" that showed a fictionalized version of how easy it would be for Russia to incite protests using social media. After watching it, I never look at anything on social media without the question in the back of my mind, "Did some 20 year old in a Russian disinformation shop write this?".

What is also disturbing is that the rest of pro-palestinian Americans seem largely silent on the entire matter in the media and on the streets.
Except for some muttering about feeling betrayed by TrumpCo. if they voted for him...where is the backlash against what he is proposing?

I suspect the whole Arab-American "blame Biden" campaign was a targeted GOP campaign to lower Arab-American turnout in Michigan. That community is very insular and because so much of their communications are in Arabic, it doesn't get picked up by American media outside Detroit. From what I've seen in the English-based Arab-American press, they are just beginning to realize they were involved another of Trump's scams. With this crowd, you may only find out how pissed off they are when the bombs start going off.

 

[rareboy]

I suspect you are right.

 

[kev]

Gosh, so much Jew hatred from the usual suspects here. You disguise it as TDS, but anyone can see it.

Since this is THE gay forum…you can see dicks without asking, let me just say, Jewish people are hot. I actually fucked one once (or thrice).