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The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2016

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The point isn't to take away the history. That's not what reclamation of a word is. The point is to both acknowledge the history, acknowledge the current use of it from outside parties, and then go "Fuck you. This doesn't make me inhuman". That's why words morph after you start getting basic rights. When others start believing that you should also have those rights there's a bit less outside stress, and one can start the creation of a group name (or group names, in this case, since transgender isn't the same as transexual isn't the same as non-binary (as an identity as opposed to a grouping of multigender identities).

Mind you, in every group there's assholes that can't tell their head from a hole in the ground and use it both in the general public for everyone and in a negative manner. They don't seem to get that you're still not supposed to use that shit as an insult. Or for people in your group you don't know or aren't on friendly terms with. Since it's fuckin' rude.

Its about respect. It's about leading by example. You are not going to know what respect is if you don't respect yourself. I don't refer to myself as the n word or the F word because I know I am not either. I demand to be treated with respect because I respect myself. I respect other people too even if they don't respect me. You know, I see some people in disadvantaged groups being way too comfortable disrespecting themselves then being offended and surprised when those outside their group are calling them the same things and treating them the same way they treat themselves and each other. It has to start from somewhere. The world is not going to be perfect. Bigotry will always be there as well as ignorance but that should never be an excuse to stoop to the same level regardless if it's yourself or someone else.

I just see the same issue with some black people, some women, some gays and etc. The same issue. The words you use on yourself does have an effect. It's starts from a word then it leads to your lifestyle. Then it becomes a problem. There is no pride in hate especially self hate. The best thing that anyone can do for themselves is loving themselves. You cannot get them from the next person. It's not the next persons responsibility to make you happy.
 
Different time periods, Refuji. While we're both in 2016, language usually follows a pattern. It's gradual and tends to take decades, if not more, when dealing with the language of oppression. When rights have been withheld you start with shit, then you try and put a positive spin on said terms, and sometimes it works. And when it works, even in just a semi-comprehensible way, it paves the road forward for language chosen by the people. in the middle of that is a lot of people working through both internalized shit and giving the words a positive meaning since there are no others that outsiders use. And then you can get new words - but the older words, oh, they're always hard-going. They'll fade away eventually, Refuji, when they're no longer needed anymore. It's how language works.

Language changes depending on context - that includes where someone is personally and where their group is currently at. In this particular day and age in the usa, Negro would be a good example. You don't see it much anymore except in historic institutional names. The kind that Grimshaw likes to pull up because he thinks he can get away with not-so-subtle racism that way. And that stupid thing the u.s. census did, when it didn't separate the word and instead kept it in the list next to one box to check in the same line as black and African-American. Few people would check it and many got pissed, and rightfully so. But it's still in use, if only a little- most probably just the very old since they tend to be stuck in their ways and have done the work reclaiming it. For everyone else there's - only - a plethora of negative connotations because they didn't do the work to create the positive ones for themselves because they weren't around for that bit. Then words shifted and there were more positive representations - except that there's still quite a bit of racism in the usa, as you're obviously already aware, so some black people still use a negative variant o'six letters, both in a negative and a positive manner. Taralen used a variant in a negative manner in a politics thread, which is not how to reclaim a word. There's not a shred of positive aspect there and on that I'd agree with you. But connotations of who is doing the speaking and why do matter because that's part of how language itself shifts. Regardless, eventually everyone who cared one way or another about the word will pass because there's new terms (with, of course, their new associated problems, as new terms so often have) and it'll fade into random historical fact. God willin'.

But arguing about how language changes is a bit of a moot point. Instead of complaining others use the language for themselves (and I understand where you're coming from on that score - I ain't fond of quite a few people, trans and not, using tranny for a plethora of reasons, they just seem to emulate all the negative shit as if it were actually what we were, among other things (I'm looking at you, RuPaul, should you ever read this), and don't get me started on the trans people with quite a few privileges because the social experience is very, very different. Race, class (granted, we generally tend to be poor, but not always, passing-as-cis ability, gender (I won't even begin to explain the latter two, it's at least 102.5 on a teaching scale and the 'class', as it were, hasn't gotten past 101 yet).

It might change faster if you explained to the people you're angry and that dropping the word isn't 'acting white' (which I s'pose is considered internecine hostility, and frankly sucks) and that there's no such bloody thing when trying to better yourself. But that doesn't negate the systematic insults and laws and actions that created the use of the word in that manner in the first place. Mostly it's time, as self-respect has to be fought for. You've noticed black people haven't quite won yet - that's why you're in the middle of words morphing and you're not happy with it because it's not at its 'ending' stages yet. As much as I wish you could hurry language along, you can't. It's an organic process.

And apologies for length!
 
You know, if you joined a couple of race-inclusive and focused activist outreach projects you'd get more done on that language front. Prolly won't change completely in your lifetime, or mine for that matter, but it's always worth a shot.Every little bit helps.
 
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Francis needs to pray for this couple we met out on the tiles tonight.

There was Aldrich (:eek: :wink: yes!!) from Boy's Town, Chicago who was head over heels in love with a local guy named Billy. They were on the tenth day of their holiday romance.

Aldrich is loaded with cash and Billy is loaded with sex-appeal.

We were trying to discreetly suggest to Billy that buying a one-way ticket to Boy's Town might not be sensible.
 
Man, some people are cowards. They start shit that they can't finish and don't know how to take responsibility for their actions. If they were half the adult that they think they were, they would handle what they did in a mature way. I could never do what they did to me to any of my friends. They can't even tell me what the fuck type of situation we had and now they wanna run off to whoever with their screwed up ass thinking that they're going to find sunshine and etc. Good luck to them because I know that that they damn sure aren't going to be better off with the next person because THEY are the one with the problem. Not me. Don't tell me what I should do and shit. Don't pop up thinking we can do this shit again because you burned a bridge on some disrespectful shit for no reason or ain't keeping it real with me. I don't deal with bullshit and you're on it so I don't think you and me could ever be friends again unless you own up to your shit and stop blaming me for your nonsense that you created.


You damn sure never ever had respect for me. Don't ever try to flip or claim some bullshit if you can't even tell me what the fuck we are doing, what type of relationship we had and you decide to run on some fuckboy shit like a little bitch when you basically ain't real. I lost a lot of respect for you for real. How you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning, man?

Telling me it's my responsibility to make them happy and all this bullshit excuses. Naw, breh. Don't say sorry either. You don't mean that shit. Thank you for wasting my time.
 
Yesterday I was grocery shopping at Ranch 99 asian store to buy monthly supply of asian food.
When I go there, I certainly sure that I'm free of sexual attack- from hot guys because who in the world think "hottie" at chinese grocery store? Very unlikely ^^

But as I line up at cashier, there you go..
this guy came with his family. He is chinese/taiwanese/I'm not sure..pale skin, dark beady eyes, dark eyes, quite handsome, 6 feet, surprisingly jock type. His chest and belly not showing hard lift, I guess he did half effort fitness or he's in transition from fat to fit. But when I observe him from corner of my eyes..few things I noticed that he has quite a bulge, visible from his track pants, and when he turn sideway, I can see his rounded, wide hips with bubble junk on behind..DAMMMMNNNN!! :eek:

Too bad he kind of knew being observed, so he hid behind his less hot brother. He shy away of me? ^^
My poor tiny heart shattered..since I can't handle that much hotness attack at sterile grocery shopping :cry: I bought everything on my list but I went home still with no peace/content. There's one grocery I skip to buy, that's him..I forgot to scan his ass, purchase him from his parents, put him in a trolley then bang the heck of him in my car.

If only I'm a Rome Caesar with powerful pointing finger :rolleyes:
 
Refuji, I don't know about other people, but it would help me if you were more specific about the people and places you are talking about. Everything seems so vague. I mean, are these long time friends or new people in your life? Are they romantic relationships?
How are you finding these people, etc. Otherwise, it feels like you are just complaining to yourself.
 
Refuji, I don't know about other people, but it would help me if you were more specific about the people and places you are talking about. Everything seems so vague. I mean, are these long time friends or new people in your life? Are they romantic relationships?
How are you finding these people, etc. Otherwise, it feels like you are just complaining to yourself.

I would go one step further.

Instead of complaining on the internet....why notconfront the people directly if they are in the real world?

This must be about the 100th time that I have read the same rant about these faceless, imaginary people.
 
Refuji, I don't know about other people, but it would help me if you were more specific about the people and places you are talking about. Everything seems so vague. I mean, are these long time friends or new people in your life? Are they romantic relationships?
How are you finding these people, etc. Otherwise, it feels like you are just complaining to yourself.

I really don't want to specify on the details. Its personal. Just want to say that I've tried and I hope that person realized that they were the ones at fault and takes responsibility for that shit instead of blaming and scapegoating. The irony of it all is that you would think they would be accepting and shit especially when they themselves can't handle that it where you've seen how they've reacted when folks straight up aren't interested in what they are into but they straight up do the same shit. Hell, the people that have accepted me being gay and all are those that I thought would reject me. They like who the fuck I am and strive to push me for better. Like they talk a good talk but don't walk the walk. This person straight up was basically saying how I wasn't good enough and all this horseshit talking like they was at a level of superiority and check it, they are gay like me. Like I'm offended at how they blamed me for their unhappiness like seriously. We can't have real convos because they don't want to be real only when it suits their agenda or when they want to basically be cutting and rude. We basically had to move the way they wanted to move where I basically couldn't be myself and they were thinking that it's all about them and feeding their fucking ego. Then they think they're being 100 percent honest when in reality, you don't have to be rude or disrespectful to tell the truth or be honest. Real talk, if this was a younger, ignorant me then I would have straight up said some really rude, vulgar and unforgivable shit to them or probably would have even took it to the hands, they were asking for it a good amount of times but I took the high road because I know better. I don't have to stoop to their level to make a point. I know I would be hauled off to jail and shit. I really dunno about them on that front because they ain't real.

I've noticed way too many gay people be contradicting themselves in terms of tolerance and acceptance. How you demanding people to respect you when you don't respect others and shit like that especially if it's someone who's gay like you. I constantly see other gay people ready to critique other people's simple ass flaws and make a big fucking deal out of it with their insecure asses. Shit is annoying. I don't even know anymore for real. Like I don't know man.
 
Me personally. I really don't understand what's so hard about tolerance. The only time where someone shouldn't be tolerant is that when people do shit that obviously is disruptive or problematic. Yet if someone is doing something that is harmless that isn't exactly harmful and shit, there's no need to knock them. This person could not do that and yet this person wanted people to give them the same fucking courtesy which made no sense. Like on some narcissistic bullshit.

Like I don't get it.


They remind me of my father for real. I'm also annoyed at my father because his narcissistic ass has created a problem that we didnt need because he did some dumb shit that wasn't fucking necessary and now we can't even plug shit into the walls because it won't work.

It's like are you fucking serious.

I'm having a terrible weekend. Another thing fucked me up is that one of my Bros friends died and I knew then a bit. They were cool as fuck and was rooting for them to pull through but guess that you know....


It's like that prediction of the year of the monkey was right. Things are not going great at all. Like I'm annoyed man. All this fucking bullshit happening now
 
Dirty words! Dirty words! Dirty words! Do not stab your finger to check your blood sugar level before you slice a tomato! Damn that stings!
 
Someone please stop Father Time.

Growing up, I used to hear "the Elders" say don't rush things...because time moves faster as you age. Now that I'm in my thirties I realize exactly what they meant. It's crazy how things that seem like yesterday for me...actually happened 10, 15, 20+ years ago.

This is a fucking head trip.

I'm not dealing well with aging, you guys. It's not the "omg...I don't look the way I used to" kind of deal...rather it's a lot more "mental", nostalgic-type, bittersweet thing that's going on upstairs for me. It's a very complex feeling.
 
Yes it is.

I've never had any reason for vanity of looks. It seems like I was just starting out after college a few years ago, not 33.
 
Someone please stop Father Time.

Growing up, I used to hear "the Elders" say don't rush things...because time moves faster as you age. Now that I'm in my thirties I realize exactly what they meant. It's crazy how things that seem like yesterday for me...actually happened 10, 15, 20+ years ago.

This is a fucking head trip.

I'm not dealing well with aging, you guys. It's not the "omg...I don't look the way I used to" kind of deal...rather it's a lot more "mental", nostalgic-type, bittersweet thing that's going on upstairs for me. It's a very complex feeling.

I hear ya.

I think the thing that gets me the most is how people react to my age. They treat 30's as being "old" and I am like, it's really not. I honestly don't feel all that different then my 20's at all. It is literally a topic of discussion at my work place when people find out I am 31.
 
After this rough weekend, it's Monday and I'm ready to get fucking busy again. Not happy, still a little sad but ready to live life again. It doesn't hurt so much now that the worst possible situation has happened. I fell and the fall hurt but it didn't kill me. Would do it again because it was worth it. Happy that i got all that out my bloodstream. More hardships ahead, more griefs but the rainbows going to come out and feeling less anxious and realizing that I can't control everything and accepting shit for what it is. Pieces are coming together.
 
Someone please stop Father Time.

Growing up, I used to hear "the Elders" say don't rush things...because time moves faster as you age. Now that I'm in my thirties I realize exactly what they meant. It's crazy how things that seem like yesterday for me...actually happened 10, 15, 20+ years ago.

This is a fucking head trip.

I'm not dealing well with aging, you guys. It's not the "omg...I don't look the way I used to" kind of deal...rather it's a lot more "mental", nostalgic-type, bittersweet thing that's going on upstairs for me. It's a very complex feeling.

In the words of Paul Simon: "slow down, you're moving to fast". That's how I feel watching my children grow up. It's all happening
too fast for me. I want to enjoy the moments, the stages of life, a little longer, but no such luck. Time keeps marching on, no matter how much I don't like it.
 
Someone please stop Father Time.

Growing up, I used to hear "the Elders" say don't rush things...because time moves faster as you age. Now that I'm in my thirties I realize exactly what they meant. It's crazy how things that seem like yesterday for me...actually happened 10, 15, 20+ years ago.

This is a fucking head trip.

I'm not dealing well with aging, you guys. It's not the "omg...I don't look the way I used to" kind of deal...rather it's a lot more "mental", nostalgic-type, bittersweet thing that's going on upstairs for me. It's a very complex feeling.



Our moments wallowing in nostalgia are a reminder that the past is always present, just as our today is the present.

Trips down memory lane are an encouragement to keep on enjoying those memorable moments that surface from time, to time with faces of family, friends, and acquaintances who once upon a time were part of our daily life.

Our age is a number on a birth certificate, certifying that we are alive to celebrate life.

Death is a certainty for all, with the added pleasure that life grants us, to write our life's story.
 
I hear ya.

I think the thing that gets me the most is how people react to my age. They treat 30's as being "old" and I am like, it's really not. I honestly don't feel all that different then my 20's at all. It is literally a topic of discussion at my work place when people find out I am 31.

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