I'm sort of led to an inescapable conclusion that this thread is being continued just so...it can be continued. ("Hey, we reached the third page! That's because people just can't stop talking about this great star in the making!!!") I say this because there's no way in hell any rational person would've gotten what you claim to have gotten from my last post. But, hey, it'll provide a break from the drudgery stuff I've been doing this afternoon, so here we go once more.
Oh lex I'm not behind the mountain snowflake, but I'm honored you think so.
My quote was "Is that what you're aiming for? When you're watching the above video, are you tapping the screen and saying "yes, that's what I'd like to do"? And is your finger tapping the actual video or just the playcount?" That doesn't once state or even imply that I think that you're snowflake. In fact, it specifically states that you're NOT snowflake. The question is "is the video - or its playcount - your inspiration on what you want to achieve?"
you have mentioned quite a few times about open mic night.. So you think one can gain fans or maybe even stricke luck and get a record deal singing karaoke to drunks at local dive bars.
Go back and find me one place in this thread - or anywhere - where I stated that one can get a record deal just by singing karaoke. Because I never did. Yes, I suggested that doing open mic nights is a great idea. But I never said once that it would lead directly to a large fan base or a recording contract.
So why do I suggest it? Because by performing at open mic nights,
you get better. You get real-time response to what you're performing and how it goes over. You get a better feel on how to engage an audience. You start learning what sort of songs work best, and how a crowd responds to what you're doing.
One band I know took this to a higher level. They managed to get themselves booked on Warped Tour. Which sounds like a gift from heaven, right? Well, no. See, they had to help set up and break down the festival in each town they visited. That meant getting there before everybody else (often before the sun came up), building everything, and tearing it down, leaving town long after dark and driving to the next town as quickly as they could so they could set up and start all over again. And they were given a slot on a small stage JUST as the doors opened. So as the very first people were wandering into the festival, they had 20-30 minutes to try to get themselves some fans. And what did they get paid for this? Nothing. If they wanted money, they had to sell their band T-shirts and other merchandise. The singer summed it up by saying, "If we didn't play well, nobody bought our merch. If nobody bought our merch, we didn't eat that day. Let's just say we got a LOT better, REALLY quick." And they definitely did - they came back from that tour a FAR better band than they used to be.
And yeah, that's an extreme example. But open mic nights are a mild version of that. You've got a chance to try to rope in the audience. If you don't, they start checking their phones, or wander off to the bar. You have to be compelling enough that they'll stick with you. And open mic nights give you the opportunity to learn how to do that.
Your comments that "nobody became a star at open mic night" is totally correct. But that's like saying "why should I go practice in the basement? There are no talent scouts in there." You're not doing it to get signed. You're doing it so you get good enough that you CAN get signed. (More on this below.)
I highly doubt your friend who can carry a moderate tune has what it takes. I also don't think you frequent bars hoping to find the next Mariah Carey.
Again, I have no idea how you misread what I wrote. "Martin's dreams, such as they are, are pretty modest. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he fantasizes about singing at Red Rocks or something.
But he's aware that's not going to happen. (Emphasis added.) He may do a couple of open mic nights, or another gig like the one last night.... He just said, "I got to sing on stage last night!"
No, he doesn't have what it takes. But the two big differences between Martin and Poodey seems to be that Martin is actually cognizant of the fact that he's not going to be famous...and that regardless of that fact, he still wants to "improve his game".
Poodey even if she's got an imagination has way more star power than snowflake. She at least is cultivating a sexy image now a whale...Miss Gaga has said she's conned people into being Someone she's not.
And it seems like that, almost to the exclusion of anything else, is what has been grasped onto. Path to success? Cultivate fake image -> fame. You've taken what CAN be a helpful step towards increasing a fanbase, and apparently made it the only one. "OK, I've got the photoshopped pictures and something I can call a 'song' - where's the recording contract?"
And I'll state with supreme confidence that Poodey's "star power" is roughly nil. Not to hammer this point home, but it's germane. She has been recording and posting songs on line for about a decade now.
And she doesn't appear to have a single fan to her name. Not a local following. Not a modest but committed online fanbase. Nothing. Even the lowliest of groups I've worked with has managed to get a handful of casual fans over the course of their first few months recording and/or performing. One might say whatever "star power" actually consists of, Poodey appears to have the exact opposite.
Again you are somome who claims to listen to artists who want fame and give them instructions on how to do so.
Some of the artists who approach me are looking for fame, and other are simply looking to "improve their game". There's actually a lot of overlap there. And I don't give instructions - I give advice, which is theirs to do with as they see fit. But yes, I've got "contacts". Yes, several of the bands that I've worked with have gotten label deals. And a few of them have reached the Billboard charts, including two who reached number one. Not the imaginary ones referenced in Poodey's Twitterland, but the real deal. I have a personalized signed LP from one of the two framed up in my hallway.
And that being said, Poodey is probably the absolute last artist I'd send up the pipe. Not solely because of the gormless product thus far presented to me, but because of the utter lack of initiative displayed alongside it. Even if Poodey HAD any "star power", I'm betting any A&R guy worth the name wouldn't be able to see it through all the red flags. He'd see an artist with half-assed material, only rudimentary attempts at promotion, zero artistic growth over the past decade, and extremely muddled ideas on how the entire artistic process works. And given that, I'm thinking he'd start thinking even Martin would be a better bet than Pyoudey.
Lex
