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Those silly pro-High Fructose Corn Syrup commercials are back

I stil don't understand why people buy bottled salad dressing.

Take 3 table spoons of olive oil, a squeeze of lemon juice or a table spoon of vinegar, drop in a small bit of mustard, some pepper and whisk it together....

There you go.. a healthy salad dressing. Tastes great, doesn't have shit ingredients, good for you.

want a more "asian" flavor? Use Sesame oil and orange juice instead. Try different kinds of vinegars, spice it differently. Add a dash of Cholulu sauce. Just remember that you'll need an emulsifier... mustard works great and so does a bit of egg yolk although unless you're buying free range eggs, I don't recommend raw eggs.
 
you know where the people who don't want to eat it are all dumb, cross-eyed, over-weight and when asked "what do they say about it," just pause and go "uh.. um... uh..."

Just for the record, High Fructose Corn Syrup isn't fructose. It's a bizarre substance that doesn't exist in nature and can't be broken down by your system so it spikes your insulin, causes obesity, diabetes and stops you from feeling the "I've had enough to eat" feeling leading you to eat even more.

It's poison which should be illegal but it's cheap and doesn't go bad...even cockroaches don't eat it.

My new years resolution was to stop consuming anything that has high fructose corn syrup in it. I wonder when will companies stop using it like they steer clear of trans fats?
 
I don't think it's so much a 'Let's consume something unhealthy' mentality as it is 'Let's consume something cheaper' mentality. Bad food is cheap. Good food isn't. That salad dressing you mentioned? It's a lot cheaper to buy the pre-made bottle than it is to buy all of the ingredients. One could argue the cost of healthy food is worth the benefits...and I would agree, but I don't believe a lot of food critics examine food from an economical perspective.

I dunno if that's THAT true.

I mean, I don't know how much a bottle of Kraft salad dressing costs but a small bottle of olive oil is like a couple bucks, a small bottle of vinegar is about a dollar. Everyone has pepper and a few herbs laying around, I would think. And it tastes better... and it's better for you... and you'll FEEL better.

Are people really that hell bent on saving 2 dollars and 2 minutes that they'll just shrug off eating crap?
 
The MSG in soy sauce is at least there naturally (if you buy the good stuff) as it is a typical product of the fermentation of soya beans. You don't want to buy anything with it actually listed on the ingredients as an additive, though.
 
Bad food is cheap. Good food isn't. That salad dressing you mentioned? It's a lot cheaper to buy the pre-made bottle than it is to buy all of the ingredients.

You couldn't be more wrong. It's only cheaper than your own homemade dressing because the ingredients they use are mostly very cheap.

You get what you pay for.
 
People buy junk because it's cheaper. They then become addicted to the additives. It's just a vicious cycle.

It isn't.

I'm shocked to find that poor Americans eat at McDonald's for breakfast every day, when they could just as easily have had a real cheese sandwich at home for less.
 
Quick look on sainsburys.co.uk:

Own brand balsamic salad dressing: £0.71/100ml. Effectively 4:1 oil and vinegar, plus a few herbs.

Olive oil: £0.58/100ml
Balsamic vinegar: £0.39/100ml
Cost of making balsamic vinaigrette from raw ingredients: £0.54/100ml

Quod.
Erat.
Demonstrandum.
 
It isn't.

I'm shocked to find that poor Americans eat at McDonald's for breakfast every day, when they could just as easily have had a real cheese sandwich at home for less.

But they would actually have to cook it themselves. If you can't do it up in 20 seconds in a microwave, it's not food.
 
I was also appalled to hear from my American guest that American orange juice you buy in the store has added sugar. :eek:
 
I was also appalled to hear from my American guest that American orange juice you buy in the store has added sugar. :eek:

OH man... I was shopping and i saw this woman buying jarred GRapefruit chunks, telling her friend that "I give these to the kids and they love them... It's a great way to get the kids to eat healthy... no junk food in MY house."

Well I took a look at the jar and it was "grapefruit in light syrup" which was basically fruit soaking in HFCS. They'd have more luck with a chocolate bar.
 
I lost close to 20 pounds by avoiding HFCS. That's it. No counting calories, no additional exercise, no nothing. ..|

It's not a religion, or anything, either. I'm not going nuts about it.

I'd probably lose the additional 10 pounds I'd like to get rid of if I quit drinking so much beer. But dammit, I LIKE beer. So deal with the little beer belly. (UU)
 
Never underestimate the lust in North America for cheap food and tons of it.

We haven't had canned soup or prepared foods for 12 years, no prepared dressings, no 'seasonings', no hfcs laced foods except when we totally fall off the wagon and have a coke.

We figure that where we spend more money on real ingredients, we save it ten times over on making and preserving our own soups and stews and breads etc. etc. etc.

Any family and any person could do it.

Just too fucking lazy.
 
I'm shocked to find that poor Americans eat at McDonald's for breakfast every day, when they could just as easily have had a real cheese sandwich at home for less.
There are an amazing number of people that eat at McD's two and three times a day, every day. Mcdonald's calls them "heavy users" (a fact that came out in "Fast Food Nation")

The food is cheap and addicting. Everything from the flavor of their ketchup to the width of their big straws has been carefully marketed over the years. It almost scary how much effort has gone on behind the scenes to make Mc'D's food 'comforting' and 'homey'. The restaurant is made to look like a familiar "friend" in the neighborhood. One that's always the same, and one that you can count on being there.
 
It's two bucks a bottle for [STRIKE]the Kraft crap[/STRIKE] KRAP'S craft

This works too, LOL - most of their "food" has all kinds of crud in it...

It isn't.

I'm shocked to find that poor Americans eat at McDonald's for breakfast every day, when they could just as easily have had a real cheese sandwich at home for less.

Or a bowl of cereal, cooking a couple eggs, making a couple pankcakes, drinking 60 cents worth of orange or cranberry juice. Of course, if somebody makes pancakes, it doesn't do much good if they heavily slather each pancake with 400 calories of butter and drown it all in the HFCS-laden crap that passes for syrup here. For syrup, I use nothing but pure maple syrup. And even though it's expensive, you don't use all that much of it in one meal.

I lost close to 20 pounds by avoiding HFCS. That's it. No counting calories, no additional exercise, no nothing.

Same here, when I decided to lose weight in 2005. If I didn't love dark chocolate SO much (and I mean a full bar per day - sometimes even two), I'd be on the perfect diet, and from my August 2005 weight [225 to 228] I'd probably now be down 70 pounds instead of the current 43 to 45. I've intensely avoided HFCS for the duration.

We haven't had canned soup or prepared foods for 12 years, no prepared dressings, no 'seasonings', no hfcs laced foods except when we totally fall off the wagon and have a coke.

We figure that where we spend more money on real ingredients, we save it ten times over on making and preserving our own soups and stews and breads etc. etc. etc.

I do eat some canned soups, but I look at ingredients carefully. Half the time I'm eating some of the Indian canned soups (often a lentil soup, or dal), or New England clam chowder, etc. There are just SOME soups that I really enjoy, but that I'm not going to even try to make at home. I accept that the canned soup will usually be a sodium-heavy meal and I figure that indulgence is less harmful, because I NEVER add salt/sodium to ANYTHING, even things I prepare from scratch or which are otherwise unsalted. It's probably actually a good idea to eat something with salt/sodium in it occasionally, because the body does need it for electrolytes balance, etc.

On soup-can ingredients lists, I don't usually see as much a potpourri of horrid stuff as I do in some other things, but I tend to get my soup from places like Whole Foods and I pay attention to the labels. Campbell simply doesn't make very much money off me.

The seasonings that I use are generally simple ones, rather than something like "Cajun seasoning" and their ilk - mostly I'll use black pepper, cilantro, cinnamon, powdered seaweed, dill, sesame seeds, curry powder, chili powder (when I make chili). I have pure cocoa powder on hand as well. I haven't used a salt shaker since sometime in the late 1970's or early 1980's.

I think I'm doing OK on breads by watching the ingredients carefully. I'm aware I get some sodium, etc. from that, but I'm still avoiding HFCS. [I ASSUME that, if the ingredients instead just say "corn syrup," it's more or less the same?] I'm not motivated enough to take the effort to make my own bread...forget it, LOL.

Sodapop isn't even on my radar. I have perhaps two per year AT THE VERY MOST - in many years it's ZERO. Almost always that rare choice will be cream soda or root beer. Of course the latter tends to be LOADED with HFCS, ingredients have to really be watched carefully.

So once I lost the 45 pounds, I've managed to continue to hover around that lower weight, now, for almost four years. My weight can sometimes spike after the year-end holidays, as well as heavily-socialized trips such as JUB meets and hobby conventions, but I usually get it back down fairly quickly.

Most of my grocery store buys consist entirely of fruits and vegetables and, when needed, staples such as milk, eggs or rice.
 
The food is cheap and addicting.

I once lived with a former heroin addict, who talked about his lifelong food addiction. While I liked the joke, I don't think normal people get addicted to McChicken nuggets.

They just get used to the cheap fat and sugar and use more and more just to feel the same way.
 
I once lived with a former heroin addict, who talked about his lifelong food addiction. While I liked the joke, I don't think normal people get addicted to McChicken nuggets.

Read up on msg.

It actually can become addictive, particularly msg, because it is an excitotoxin.

http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm
 
Read up on msg.

It actually can become addictive, particularly msg, because it is an excitotoxin.

http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm


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And while you're at Jeff Rense's website you can also learn about astral projection and why Jews are such bad people. What a deal! :rolleyes:
 
^ Oh. Sorry.

I just grabbed one site at random to highlight the book...didn't realize Rense's site was so whimsical. Certainly they admit they don't filter anything.

Read the original book.

Nothing wacky at all in the hypothesis and research. Erb is certainly not a nutcase.

Read the other studies out there and then make up your own mind.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Slow-Poisoning-America-Michelle-Erb/dp/0974199303"]Amazon.com: The Slow Poisoning Of America (9780974199306): T Michelle Erb, Erb. John E: Books[/ame]
 
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