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Torchwood

Well just got my Starz subscription and spent the last 48 hours watching all 7 episodes so far. I agree I liked the earlier seasons better. I loved that crazy immortal time traveling omni-sexual Jack ever since I first saw him in Dr. Who. I hated the what he was forced to do in Children but was willing to accept that bad things happen to good people.

I'm glad they not only didn't play down his sexuality but actually played it up this season but I swear if they pull that hoary old chestnut of the villain being the jilted gay lover out of the woodwork I'm going to scream.

I don't hold it against Davies on killing off major characters, that actually a trait of BBC dramas that you don't see in American drama so much and makes it more thrilling and realistic because you don't know if all the heros make it through the series.

I rather thought too much time was spent on the 'overflow camp' plot thread, it was so obvious where that was heading you could have wrapped it up in one episode. In the end it seems like the whole camps and drug company plots have been just a major distraction to pad out the episodes before finally starting to get to the meat of the main plot here in episode 7.

Rex is a dead man, literally, I'm sure. It seems to certain that whatever force is keeping people alive has to be an 'active' force of some kind and once it ends everyone like Rex is going to die.
 
I don't think the gay lover will be the villain it's those three weird guys - remember the triangle they made with their arms when they agreed to 'buy' Jack?!

In any case...have felt this series is slowly descending. Boo.
 
Are we sure Vera is dead? she could come hobbling out of the ovens all melted and scarred, but still alive...
 
braex27 said:
I don't think the gay lover will be the villain it's those three weird guys - remember the triangle they made with their arms when they agreed to 'buy' Jack?!

In any case...have felt this series is slowly descending. Boo.
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I totally thought of that. BUT...they may have also "bought" from his lover....or his "lover" may have killed them. I have thought about the different possibilites that come along with that scene myself.
 
I love Doctor Who and just recently started getting into Torchwood (almost finished S2). I'm starting to love Torchwood, it had a slow start and has quite a few duds in between, but the good episodes are soooo good.

Though, there is one thing that gets to me. Everyone seems to be raving about Cpt. Jack and John Barrowman but I cannot stand the character (he just comes off as an asshole to me) and it doesn't help that Barrowman is an extremely weak actor. Every single line he says, especially the ones that are supposed to be all badass are so unconvincing.

I love all the other characters. Ianto and Rhys are my favourites. The guy who plays Rhys blew me away in the episode where Rhys finds out what Gwen does ("Meat", if I remember correctly).
 
braex27 said:
The 'reveal' was a little bit of a let down. The moral of the story is, if you're immortal, don't reveal it to lovers you barely know.
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The scene (in the seventh episode, "Immortal Sins") in the butcher shop after Angelo found out about Jack's immortality was really horrific.

I'll be curious how that relates to the present-day events.
 
morgaes said:
I love Doctor Who and just recently started getting into Torchwood (almost finished S2). I'm starting to love Torchwood, it had a slow start and has quite a few duds in between, but the good episodes are soooo good.
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I envy you, because you still have yet to see the third season, which was excellent. Let us know what you think of it.
 
^I hate to disagree XYZZ01, but I think season 3 marks the downturn of the series. Season 1 & 2 are far better.
 
It depends on what sort of show you want. Each episode in the first two seasons was a standalone story. The third season (and the fourth one now appearing on TV) feature a large story that stretches over the entire season.

And the third season was aired over five consecutive nights, which built the suspense very effectively.
 
I agree, XYZZ. I watched Season 3 on DVD well after it's TV airing and I was absolutely hooked. I couldn't stop. It was edge-of-your-seat stuff. Really really great!
 
John De Lancie (Q on Star Trek TNG) just rocked it last night on Torchwood as CIA guy Shapiro.
 
morgaes said:
I love Doctor Who and just recently started getting into Torchwood (almost finished S2). I'm starting to love Torchwood, it had a slow start and has quite a few duds in between, but the good episodes are soooo good.

Though, there is one thing that gets to me. Everyone seems to be raving about Cpt. Jack and John Barrowman but I cannot stand the character (he just comes off as an asshole to me) and it doesn't help that Barrowman is an extremely weak actor. Every single line he says, especially the ones that are supposed to be all badass are so unconvincing.

I love all the other characters. Ianto and Rhys are my favourites. The guy who plays Rhys blew me away in the episode where Rhys finds out what Gwen does ("Meat", if I remember correctly).
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Yes finally someone else who sees what a weak actor Barrowman is. I think ppl are blinded by the fact he's an out actor sometimes. :gogirl:(!)
 
Irish Queer said:
Yes finally someone else who sees what a weak actor Barrowman is. I think ppl are blinded by the fact he's an out actor sometimes. :gogirl:(!)
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Anyways, I just finished CoE. Oh my, I gobbled it up! Watched the first episode and then the next night I polished off the next 4 :D. This was such a massive improvement to the show!
Honestly, before this I was just watching because it was a part of the Whoniverse (and 'cause Ianto isn't half bad to look at) but I was glued to the screen for the whole series. The first two seasons are just a hit and miss collection of standalone episodes that could've been from any random sci-fi series but CoE really gives the show a cohesive identity. I loved that they actually had a story arc (the crapfest that was the "Gray" arc in S2 is something I'd rather pretend didn't happen). And the best thing - John Barrowman wasn't really in the leading role this time round (should've left him in the concrete cell, imo xD).

It sounds as if Miracle Day is similar in having an overarching story but from what I hear it's much slower paced (since it's over more episodes, I guess). I'll have to see for myself, but I really do hope that Torchwood will stick to this format. I'm very interested to see what will become of Torchwood now that it's pretty much only Jack and Gwen (and Rhys?).

Epic and urgent story arcs? Yes!
Boring, hammy acting and "monster of the week"? No!
 
I thought CoE was awfully depressing. So far MD isn't a lot better, though it IS interesting to see Torchwood in America.

I don't agree that Barrowman is a weak actor. I think he's very good at what he does. Jack is a rather broad character.

I hate the CIA guy with the chest wound.
 
For some reason I really preferred Torchwood as a monster of the week show, This series is really good and interesting, but I can't really imagine many more series of one arc stories, in my opinion continuous, ominous world changing events will get boring.
 
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