On-Topic Trump Bans Syrian Refugees

[Vitamin]

When did Canada have its last terrorist attack?

Just today, actually.


Shots fired at Canadian mosque
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071

Those filthy Muslim shooting innocent Christ--oh wait.

 

[gsdx]

Just today, actually.


Shots fired at Canadian mosque
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071

Those filthy Muslim shooting innocent Christ--oh wait.

That's been a problem with Trump's popularity. He has made bigotry and hate and misogyny acceptable, and those Canadians so inclined have been acting out on it. Even here in Peterborough, a mosque was vandalised. They have become the very terrorists they want to annihilate.

All through the misguided power of one single man.

 

[Benvolio]

Just today, actually.


Shots fired at Canadian mosque
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071

Those filthy Muslim shooting innocent Christ--oh wait.

Actually you are right; it was muslims from Morocco.

 

[MorrisseyX]

Mainly because its a stupid talking point. Quite a few people in the 30s thought we should be friends with Hitler because he was opposed to the Soviet Communists. WE should love the people who hate us because they are are not as bad as the other people who hate us. The enemy of my enemy who is ALSO my enemy is not my friend.

No it is NOT just a talking point as a Canadian I don't give a shit about the Muslim Ban and neither should OTHER CANADIANS. Some Canadian people are so stupid the USA is not Canada, Trump cannot do anything to us. Canada is an independent country. I think is PATHETIC to see some Canadians crying over Trump Muslim ban. Many of the same Muslim people you cry for come from countries which discriminate against gays and are involved in terrorism. I think Pakistan should definitely be on the ban list. Pakistan is a huge hot bed for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden hid in Pakistan before Obama got the troops to take him out! I am tired of Canadian people WORRYING about the USA and not GIVING A DAMN about CANNADIAN ISSUES RIGHT HERE!

 

[MorrisseyX]

A lot of the same Muslim people are crying about on this thread are the same people who view gay people as a lower life form or not even worthy of being called human. Sorry, I am not going to get upset about a Muslim ban when plenty of those same Muslim people do not give a damn about LGBT people. Many of those same countries are extremely anti gay.

 

[gsdx]

Actually you are right; it was muslims from Morocco.

And those Muslims (with a capital 'M') were slaughtered by terrorists who have been encouraged by Trump to do so. Never forget that. He has been stirring the 'hate' pot since his nomination. Stir it enough and it boils over, only this time, it's boiling over across your borders into other countries. That is not something you should be proud of, and you should not be excusing him for what he is doing to everyone else in the world.

Those Muslims were Canadian citizens, and they were slaughtered by terrorists. Trump is creating the very thing he is claiming to fight. He's creating North American terrorists.

 

[Benvolio]

And those Muslims (with a capital 'M') were slaughtered by terrorists who have been encouraged by Trump to do so. Never forget that. He has been stirring the 'hate' pot since his nomination. Stir it enough and it boils over, only this time, it's boiling over across your borders into other countries. That is not something you should be proud of, and you should not be excusing him for what he is doing to everyone else in the world.

Those Muslims were Canadian citizens, and they were slaughtered by terrorists. Trump is creating the very thing he is claiming to fight. He's creating North American terrorists.

No you misunderstood. The victims were muslims AND the shooters were muslims from Morocco. It is silly to think Trump had anything to to with it.

 

[rareboy]

Actually you are right; it was muslims from Morocco.

Tell me how Alexandre Bissonette is a muslim from Morocco again?

Sorry about killing your boner.

 

[rareboy]

So back to topic.

Obviously there are some actual lawyers who think that Trump's ban is illegal...as well as intellectually and morally bankrupt.

Like the AG for Washington State.

Ferguson said the lawsuit against Trump and high-ranking Trump administration officials would be filed later Monday in federal court in Seattle.

He said it would seek to have key provisions of the executive order declared unconstitutional. The lawsuit also seeks a temporary restraining order against enforcement of the executive order.

“We’ve had folks in our office working all weekend on a legal action,” said Ferguson, who was joined at a news conference by Washington Gov. Jay Inslee.

“This is un-American, it is wrong, and it will not stand,” Inslee said. “The clear intent of this executive order is to discriminate against one faith amongst all God’s children.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...president-trump-over-his-immigration-ban.html

 

[gsdx]

Canada has announced that it will grant temporary residency permits and, if necessary, temporary residence as well for visitors stranded here because of Trump's ban.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-offer-temp-permits-those-000207340.html

 

[frankfrank]

Now, if Canada would also grant residency to scared Americans...

 

[mikey3000]

President Obama puts*six month ban on Iraqi refugees*in 2011 and media…. crickets.
President Trump puts*120 day suspension on Syrian refugees*2017… media explodes.

Obama selects 7 countries for*enhanced visa security policy and media… crickets.
Trump uses*Obama law, same*Obama DHS policy, and same*7 countries; for a 90-day visa suspension and media explodes.

Hmmm...

 

[mikey3000]

And those Muslims (with a capital 'M') were slaughtered by terrorists who have been encouraged by Trump to do so. Never forget that. He has been stirring the 'hate' pot since his nomination. Stir it enough and it boils over, only this time, it's boiling over across your borders into other countries. That is not something you should be proud of, and you should not be excusing him for what he is doing to everyone else in the world.

Those Muslims were Canadian citizens, and they were slaughtered by terrorists. Trump is creating the very thing he is claiming to fight. He's creating North American terrorists.

You are such a liar. President Trump has never encouraged anything of the kind. Shame on you!

 

[MystikWizard]

And those Muslims (with a capital 'M') were slaughtered by terrorists who have been encouraged by Trump to do so. Never forget that.

Source? Link?

 

[gsdx]

President Obama puts*six month ban on Iraqi refugees*in 2011 and media…. crickets.
President Trump puts*120 day suspension on Syrian refugees*2017… media explodes.

That's because they weren't the same thing. No matter how much Trump may whine and complain, the circumstances were entirely different.

Not that you'll bother to read it, but: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ilar-to-obama-in-2011/?utm_term=.0e2bace00cbf

There are other sites with the same story. Google it.

 

[mikey3000]

They are for the exact same reason, national security, both perceived.

 

[rareboy]

They were not executed remotely in a similar way.

And Obama got slapped down too.

Do some fucking research for a change.

 

[mikey3000]

Oh, so now they were executed different, well then...that's, um, different then. Lol!

 

[gsdx]

Oh, so now they were executed different, well then...that's, um, different then. Lol!

Not. The. Same.

The only news report that we could find that referred to a six-month ban was a 2013 ABC News article that included this line: “As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News — even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.”

The “Kentucky case” refers to two Iraqis in Kentucky who in May 2011 were arrested and faced federal terrorism charges after officials discovered from an informant that Waad Ramadan Alwan, before he had been granted asylum in the United States, had constructed improvised roadside bombs in Iraq. The FBI, after examining fragments from thousands of bomb parts, found Alwan’s fingerprints on a cordless phone that had been wired to detonate an improvised bomb in 2005.

The arrests caused an uproar in Congress, and the Obama administration pledged to reexamine the records of 58,000 Iraqis who had been settled in the United States. The administration also imposed new, more extensive background checks on Iraqi refugees. Media reports at the time focused on how the new screening procedures had delayed visa approvals, even as the United States was preparing to end its involvement in the Iraq War.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ilar-to-obama-in-2011/?utm_term=.99a96eb9aeb3

 

[frankfrank]

You are such a liar. President Trump has never encouraged anything of the kind. Shame on you!

INDIRECT encouragement counts, too. He's not telling these slaughters to happen, but he's declaring war on an entire religion (his "clarifications" notwithstanding) and, therefore, assuring that Muslims will go to war against "us" and the rest of the world.

Obama selects 7 countries for*enhanced visa security policy and media… crickets.
Trump uses*Obama law, same*Obama DHS policy, and same*7 countries; for a 90-day visa suspension and media explodes.

I'd like to see a link to Obama declaring those exact same seven countries to be ones with enhanced scrutiny. I mean, I have my doubts. THIS IS REALLY RICH. The entire Republican Party has shown nothing but total hatred for Obama and his legacy. Am I to believe that they suddenly embraced bans on the exact same seven countries that Obama originally came up with?

I mean, Obama's original list, NOT ALTERED AT ALL? The new list doesn't even have any "Trump marks" on it. He doesn't let anything remain intact. Not ever.

On the other hand, it may be nothing more than FOLLOW THE MONEY...Obama was pretty much a corporatist along with all of the others, and of course he wasn't going to penalize any countries that we get oil from, etc. Omission of Saudi Arabia from the list isn't the only interesting omission; it also seem strange that Pakistan, Oman, Egypt aren't on it. We must get some pretty good resources from all of those places.