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Undying love for my best friend...please read(long

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Just as soon as I get another chance, another one of those chances..at the right time....at the right moment, when Ill feel it. I know thats not the answer you are looking for or were hoping on, but that is what my gut is telling me to do
 
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I'm not looking for either. Don't try and please us here. As it's been said before, do it for yourself; it'll be better for you in the long run.

I don't think there will be any 'right time' and/or 'right moment.' Me thinks you'll just have to blurt it out. I've read a few time when it would have been well timed. But I understand the trepidation.

We're on you side, remember. Best of luck Bri.

-LL
 
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LooseLiam-Thanks so much for your support-will definitely keep you guys updated-as always-Brian
 
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Oi oi oi! Thanks for the post lil c boy, after reading your post I needed about 10 tylenol..just kiddin man..Thanks for your support and for reading, Brian..Nice to my experience touch someone as far away as Australia...peace.
 
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I dropped in as usual to see what's cookin, Brian. No news, huh?
Got to wondering if I sound pushy... I think I posted something about why I get that way. I gotta tell ya, though, that in my dreams I've never had a friend as good as you've got there. Do whate you need to, to keep him.
 
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I spoke to my buddy last night. :D

There was the usual talk of us missing each other, so I will spare you those details. :-({|=

He said if the way things are going out there continue like it is out there, that he and his girl will break up. He says she will want to to find someone more grounded and with more money and stability. I re-assured him this wouldnt be the case :^o , but would I be a total jackass to admit..some part of me secretly wants that. I know I know..bad Brian. #-o

We got onto me talking about gay stuff again and some jokes were made. He said he always wondered why my porn DVDs in my house that he found(when he stayed over) were all centered around big cocks. *|*

He said that I must be horny all the time and I said yeah..he goes when you and Matt meet it must be a "come here and pull your pants down" type of thing. I said yeah bro, it's alot easier than the heteros and their dinner and a date foreplay. We both laughed and started talking bout me having sex with Matt and he said "disgusting" at one point which got me ticked :grrr: but I didnt show it.

Then I told him the thought of straight people screwing and the thought of Vagina :p made me equally as disgusted :badgrin: . He goes "but yeah what about that time in Vegas with that hooker I got you..you came out smiling.." And I go bro, a hoover vacuum could have blown me and I would have the same look on my face.

He said I need to come out there to Vegas. That he needs me out there. He said to dont worry about Matt and come out there, that there are a lot of guys I will meet out here.

I said the one problem I have meeting guys is that they are not like you buddy..and he goes "Im never going to meet another Brian and you are never going to meet another me..we have a rare relationship." I told him I wanted to meet someone who is masculine and into sports and is a take charge type person(all of which my buddy is ;) )

I told him I needed him with me in Brooklyn..and he said what are you trying to do..you want me to come back..I said Im just saying what I feel...there was silence...and he said he was getting down because of what I said.

I got on the phone with his girl, it was her birthday, to say hi and she gave the phone back.

He said he doesnt know how much longer he can keep it up out there and somedays he wishes he were single because he would come back to live near me in a second.

He told me hes worried about money. He thanked me many times for what I am doing and helping him..He said what am I supposed to do..keep asking for your help? I told him "without a doubt..what are brothers for?"..He said he cannot state in words how thankful he is that he met me..we ended the call saying "I miss you.."

Will update again soon guys..Bri
 
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When I came on here originally writing to you guys, I was not out to my friend. With him leaving and with you guys' help..I did..and let me tell you, that is something I still cannot believe I did..

And now..i know Im getting close to telling him this..It seems like I am stalling but Im not..Im waiting for a little longer...just a little..will definitely tell him, which is also something I never pictured myself doing..thanks for all the continued support. Brian
 
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It suddenly hit me....
do you have enough money to get the two of you together? Seems to me I'd want to say or hear such a thing from hugging distance.
 
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Just got off the phone with my buddy...3:23am here....He called to tell me he needs more help and that hes almost down to nothing. His other "childhood" friends have ignored or declined hints that he has given and are not helping him :grrr:

I actually almost started to cry talking to him..I really do feel bad for him...he seems to never to be able to catch a break :confused: ...just a little down here guys..

Start my new masters class tomorrow(in 5 hours #-o )...wish me luck..talk to you guys soon. Bri
 
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As much as you love him, there had to be a stoping point. I think he knows what will solve his problem... moving back to New York and ditching the bitch. But that's just my 2 pence!
 
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Brian,

You're going to go crazy if you keep waiting. Maybe if you tell him, it will help him decide what he really wants to do with his life.

J.
 
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Lestat62 said:
Brian,

You're going to go crazy if you keep waiting. Maybe if you tell him, it will help him decide what he really wants to do with his life.

J.
I think this is excellent advice.

Brian--as many of us have said before, good luck. Continue to let us know how you're doing. We care.
 
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Hey guys whats up...back here with some thoughts for you..

Lestat, thank you for the advice, it really is appreciated..thank you so much. (*8*)

Averageguy...you have ben through some of this with me, reading right along. Thank you so much for caring, thank you all so much for caring. (*8*)

Im finding it hard to stop supporting my buddy. We are very aware that we are co-dependent on each other for many reasons. But we find it hard not to be.

Do not know if I said this before but let me get this out in the open. My buddy did not graduate high school. I sat with him many times trying to get him to study for his GED or HS Diploma. I bought books. I sat with him. I gave him HW. His attention span is not all there, I think he was diagnosed with some type of attention deficit disorder when he was younger. Not any excuse mind you, but still...

Me and him are a lot alike. We both HATE work. We dont like to work for other people. We both have this dream of opening up a profitable business. We both want to make enough money so we can spend out days doing friend type things ie. bunjee jumpin, ATV racing, and overall just hanging out like good friends do.

My buddy is great at poker and he always dreamed of making it big doing that. I want to try stand up comedy(at the suggesting of everyone I know) and I would love to make it big in that. But these are dreams. I fully know that I have to have a safety net and a plan B waiting in the wings..hence my dedication to my masters and eventual PhD.

It is however, hard for buddy to see reality. He really is relying on this business idea for both of us and making ti in poker. He knows what he has to do. He knows heh as to get a job to make ends meet out there. It is just very hard for him. He doesnt have the attention to go back for his GED and he failed 3 aptitude tests for jobs out in Vegas already. Hes good in math but not so good in reading.

I love him so much. I want to never let him fall. I do not want to see life get harder for my friend. I cry for him sometimes.

He didnt have the best life(but who has right?)

His dad does not talk to him. His mom left him and his dad a few years back to go live with some guy who she married in Texas.

His girls's family hates him and thinks he is no good for their daughter.

My family thinks he is a user.

My brothers' wife's father used to be the teacher of my buddy(small world huh) the little time he was in high school. He didnt do the best things: cutting out and eventually dropping out, bullying, robbing people..etc. My buddy is not book smart but he is definitely street smart. My family was told this by this guy and they dont care for my buddy at all.

His friends are not the best to him. They dont so anything bad and are not evil per se..but his two childhood friends who he grew up with..well my buddy cant go for them for help because he knows the answer. I think, and so does my buddy, that they secretly wish for him to fail in certain things.

He knows I will never judge him and accept him no matter how smart he is, no matter what pieces of paper he went to school for, no matter how much he got and no matter what he does for a living. He knows I will be with him by his side to the end unconditionally. And it is true.

All the people who hate on him should only know the true man he is. The true person who has been there for me more than anyone. He let me be me and accepted me wholeheartedly.

He has such a wonderful personality and big heart. He just seems to be in a cache 22. He wants a lot o f things out of life but it is hard for him at the same time. Its hard for him to work 7 dollars an hour at a grocery store to make ends meet because he knows hes better than that, and I agree.

Many of you PMed me that I need to ease up on the money and for us to stop being co-dependent on each other. Many have said that I should not lend him anymore money. I kind of know this is true, but it is hard when he has nothing.

We always say to each other that one if us is going to see our names in bright lights one day..him for his poker or me for our comedy..and its fun and nice and warm to think these thoughts...but I know I am getting older and its hard for these things to become true. I can step back from la la land and into reality and be able to finish my masters and PhD and say..ok..so teaching is not that bad a way to make a living.

I want the very best for him and he wants the very best for me. We are great guys with a lot of heart and that is so rare today. We have genuine love for each other and for others.

My buddy, when he met me, said he turned over a new leaf because he realized that good, genuine, honest people exist in this life still. He made a lot of money doing the wrong things...and now that hes doing the right things and no money to show for it, hes wondering if God is paying him back and sometimes he wonders if being good is worth it. I can understand his thoughts.

But I always tell him, its much harder to do the right thing in todays world and to be selfless. There are not many people who get rewarded and credited for doing the right thing and often it goes unnoticed.

i just wanted to vent a little guys. Thank you so much, each and every one of you. BRIAN ..|
 
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Hey all quick update.

Spoke to my friend last night. More like cried to him. Told him how much I am stressed, and down and missing him. Told him his leaving hurt me. Told him I have stuff thats sitting on my chest and bothering me and that I want to tell him but I cant right now. He says does it involve me? And I hesitated and changed topic. He kept telling me to stop crying.

I said I think I need to take a break from things and everyone for a while and collect my thoughts and sort out my feelings. He said "even a break from me???" and I said I think so yeah..and he said thats not good to hear and that he wishes I was there with him becasue he thinks people are getting in my head and ear too much over here. He said I can always cal him anytime. We ended the call.

Got home today and found out he called. I am emotionally drained and thinking that I did this all to myself and that I now deserve this depression. Not feeling too good tonight. He will probably call, but I dont know if I will pick up. Not playing games, just so confused, conflicted and altogether lost. Afraid if I talk to him now, I will just delude myself into feeling things for him again. I am thinking(not doing) bad thoughts again. I feel useless and idiotic and numb. Later, brian
 
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Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to distance yourself a bit. Allow both of you to grow independently. Hun, you really need to find something to do to take you mind off this mess. You like working out? Drawing? Model cars/planes? Something distracting. Oh, and a good stiff scotch =]
 
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Brian,

Don't take this the wrong way but stay away from posting here for now. Collect your thoughts and talk to your friend. You've reached that stage. I know that I'm giving you advice but at the same time telling you to not to listen to us for a while. Everyone here has given you good advice and I guess you needed this advice from others. From what I have read, you are a mature and intelligent guy. Follow your heart.

I'm going to take a page from your book and set a few thing straight in my life.

Joe.
 
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Wow, dude.
I feel for ya, but I don't know what to say. I'm starting to think the advice that he should return is best all around. Maybe this just isn't the right time for him to be settling somewhere else, if it's stressing you two this much.
Hang in there!
 
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Hey guys, back with a small update.

My buddy called me at around 2am my time last night and while it was ringing, I debated whether or not I should pick the phone up or not. Well, I did.

He said "I called you before.." and I said "Yeah buddy..I know"..

He asked how I was and I said very bad. Depressed. lost. Confused. Numb.

My buddy doesnt like that I am over here. He thinks people and a therapist I see sometimes gets to me and makes me hate and see my him differently. I will never see my buddy differently. He is always worried about that though.

I told him he does not have to worry and that I am down for a different reason. After he tried to get at what was bothering me, all I could say is now is not the right time.

We ended the call a little after and I went to sleep. I woke up really depressed, almost to the point of calling in sick. The first thing I thought about was my buddy when I woke up. I said this is nuts, I have to tell him this...I need to tell him this.

I never pictured myself coming out to my buddy and when I came on here to the JUB board to tell you guys my story, I felt this sudden urgency and need to. When I finally did I was happy.

I want to feel happy again.

This has been consuming me for too long and I find myself everyday with this urge to tell him.

I am asking for your help a little. My first instinct of course is to talk to him about it. But guys, I am afraid to. I am thinking of writing him an email. I feel I can better lay out in the open what I am thinking and I wouldnt be so nervous that I would forget anything. Is this the wrong way to do it?? I mean some said to come out to my buddy other than talking to him would be bad, but I came out to him on the phone and our next meet in person went fine.

Guys..what do I do? And how can I go about saying that I have feelings for him??

After I tell him..I dont want out 3 hour calls to end. I dont want us to stop saying I mis you and I love you and I dont want him to stop getting emotional with me...Im afraid these things will end when I tell him because he might thing doing or saying these things is making me feel a certain way...guys I need help :help:

Brian !oops!

P.S. I tried to take a break from my buddy. I just cant. To go from seeing and talking to him everyday, I cant just stop all of that all of a sudden.

And I also cannot seem to stop posting here. I need advice..My heart is going through so many things, and I feel the need to vent. I hope you guys dont mind. peace
 
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LostVegas said:
After I tell him..I dont want out 3 hour calls to end. I dont want us to stop saying I mis you and I love you and I dont want him to stop getting emotional with me...Im afraid these things will end when I tell him because he might thing doing or saying these things is making me feel a certain way...guys I need help :help:

After telling him, yeah, maybe the calls will stop, but so will your anxiety and depression, yes you will be sad, but you will move on and recover. If you carry on like this, you are never going to be happy.

I know it is a lot easier to say this from the outside looking in, but give it some thought. Hope you feel better soon. (*8*)

J.
 
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