Undying love for my best friend...please read(long

[Lube]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

While it's flattering he wants you out there so bad, there are still 2 concerns:

1. Money. If you all live together, he doesn't have to 'ask' you for money anymore. You'll just be there to pay the bills as they come in.
2. Sex. I still think he's trying to have his cake and eat it, too. His fiance/wife for show, and you for emotional support. Is that what you want? I know you love her like a sister, but...

You need to think this through to its logical conclusion. What do you think life out there with both of them will be like in 6 months, a year, 2 years, 5 years?

 

[cumluv]

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hey Bri I think CGHJ is right. I was thinking about something. Maybe you 2 could get together somehow. A whole night or weekend
together to talk. I think if you to due get together it might help with your feelings for him or it might strengthen his feelings for you. What ever you do I just hope your happy you are defiantly one great guy.

Ps on my last post I hope calling you Bro doesn't bother you but spell check changed and I didn't realize it did. I

Ps I don't know why that was bothering me.

 

[LostVegas]

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Hey guys...

LUV-your used of "bro" doesnt bother me in the least.

Old-The money situation is coming to an end this week. For a good long while. And thats about that. I cant help him much anymore.

I dont think I can do the living with them thing..as tempting as it is...

First off I love my space....and I would feel like Im intruding...plus knowing Im living in a place where they have sex kind of freaks me out...and lastly..I mean me and her get along..but I DONT think shes going to be as happy as he would be that Im living there after a while...Brian


"Where'd You Go?"

Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.

She said "Some days I feel like shit,
Some days I wanna quit, and just be normal for a bit,"
I don't understand why you have to always be gone,
I get along but the trips always feel so long,
And, I find myself trying to stay by the phone,
'Cause your voice always helps me to not feel so alone,
But I feel like an idiot, workin' my day around the call,
But when I pick up I don't have much to say,
So, I want you to know it's a little fucked up,
That I'm stuck here waitin', at times debatin',
Tellin' you that I've had it with you and your career,
Me and the rest of the family here singing "Where'd you go?"

I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone,
Please come back home...

You know the place where you used to live,
Used to barbecue up burgers and ribs,
Used to have a little party every Halloween with candy by the pile,
But now, you only stop by every once and a while,
Shit, I find myself just fillin' my time,
With anything to keep the thought of you from my mind,
I'm doin' fine, I plan to keep it that way,
You can call me if you find that you have something to say,
And I'll tell you, I want you to know it's a little fucked up,
That I'm stuck here waitin', at times debatin',Tellin' you that I've had it with you and your career,
Me and the rest of the family here singing "Where'd you go?"

I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone,
Please come back home...

I want you to know it's a little fucked up,
That I'm stuck here waitin', no longer debatin',
Tired of sittin' and hatin' and makin' these excuses,
For why you're not around, and feeling so useless,
It seems one thing has been true all along,
You don't really know what you've got 'til it's gone,
I guess I've had it with you and your career,
When you come back I won't be here and you can sing it...

Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone,
Please come back home...
Please come back home...
Please come back home...
Please come back home...
Please come back home...

 

[NameTaken]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Fort Minor is the shit.

 

[CGHJ]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

You're wise to refuse to live with them...that's always a bad idea.

But you won't have to worry about living with them, he won't be able to hold out that long once you're there. Notice how he already said "go on and do our own thing.." hello? He's straight my ass. That's about the last thing you need to worry about Brian, promise me you'll put that out of your mind.

What he's thinking of as "eventually" will come sooner rather than later. I mean, once you're there she's either going to hardly see him, or every time she sees you two together it's going to be perfectly obvious since you're both cooing lovebirds. Or when you can't come out there and she wonders why she should uproot her life to move back to NY...he's not going to be able to stay separated from you for much longer and soon he'll get to a point, it sounds like, where he'll do almost anything to be with you.

I mean my god he gets separation anxiety. He's not just in love, he's lovesick. More than you are. That's the funny part.

[edit]I hope. I reread this again and I sure do sound awfully certain. I'm certain it's what he wants, but I haven't seen him and his girl, he may truly love her too, so I have no way to rate how strong that bond is and there may be more there than just "hard to admit what he really wants". And I have no idea where she's at, maybe she's had it with him, maybe she'll never let him go...in any case at least you have a good solid chance.[/edit]

However in any case I'm really glad to hear that you're all lovey again after the recent scrape up. I advise to stand firm on the money. Don't feel guilty, there's only so much you can do...besides, if you're going to be his sugar daddy, he should at least be living with you, right? I bet the thought has crossed his mind...and he would do it in a shot if he could. It's so hard for him to leave his fiancee behind, but that's all that's holding him back.

I also have to note that I agree with yur decision not to show Andy this thread. I don't think there's any real chance of him ever finding out, the community seems big but really in proportion it's quite small, and no one's gonna recognize him from just a name. Some things should just remain private though...and you if you did you could never speak candidly with us again. I think it would be hillarious if he had a thread going on some other board though lol

 

[LostVegas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Hey guys...Im pretty sad today..and for a quite different reason.

I lost 28 people that I hold close to my heart today.

Today was the last time I saw my kids.

They only had 4 periods today. I was in with them 1st and 4th...and I knew 4th period was going to be so hurtful.

That period came and when I walked in Megan(girl in my class) came up to me and said "I love you like your my family. Im going to miss you Mr. T"

I had to immediately leave the room. My gut hurt so much.

I came back 5 minutes later and the class asked where I went..and I said I dont want to hear goodbyes in here...only "see you soons".

These kids have been my life the past 9 months or so. I often saw more of them an spent more time talking to them than their own families sometimes.

I saw one of my students Marcus counting change in class in the corner at a table. I went over to talk to him nd eventually I asked him why hes meticulously counting this money out and he said hes planning on opening a savings account..and I asked him if hes savin for something nice....and he goes Im saving to get my own apt..because he heard at 17 he can legally live on his own...my heart sank...and I asked him if everything was ok at home(knowing it wasnt..Me and Marcus go way back throughout the year..hes had major problems with an abusive an absentee dad and in a weird way I had become his "father")..he said some things were not cool...I told him he can always come back to me if he needs to talk.

As I watched their last period unfold...I stood by the door..and just watched them all.
I started to well up and cry...the tears came down.

I promised myself I would be good..and try to hold it in..but I couldnt.

I cried several times more..and the class gave me a group hug, and then they started to cry.

I told them, through tears and choking back my words, that if for any reason they are in trouble or they need anything....please come see me..Ill always be waiting here for them.

I made them all promise to come back and call.

I gave them out their diplomas and report cards.

And a few minutes later...I muttered my last "Ok guys, its time to pack up and go..."

I started bawling again..I wanted them to stay forever.

I got so used to having them as routinely part of my life that it just instinctively FEELS like I will be seeing their faces again tomorrow morning.

But I wont.

And they started to realize this themselves and they all lost it.

I led them outside and hugged each and every one of them.

Marcus, the young man who got very close to me this year..gave me a handshake and I pulled him closer for a hug.

I knew this was going to be hard for him.

I told him I think of him as a son..and that when I have a son I would only want him to be half the young man that you are Marcus...with that he cried and said not to worry and that if I need anything I know where to find him..and that he will be back to visit..

My class was 514..they were a very emotional class. You knocked one of them, and you had them all against you...it became a tight family.

I will forever and forever hold this class close to my heart and I dare say I wont meet a more sincere, spirited, emotional bunch.

We all learned a lot from each other.

Im sitting here crying well after they have left me..and I wonder if this is normal?

Anyone who knows me knows that I have an extremely hard time dealing with loss..through death or otherwise.

I feel a little empty without them..and will forever be wondering how they are and if they are safe.

I felt like adopting them all and not letting them out of my sight. I want nothing but the best for them and I want no harm to come to them..they have been through enough shit....I only ask God to watch over them daily now.

I will miss class 514 and it was my honor, and privilege to have been in that room with them all year. God bless you guys...

It is with a very heavy heart..that I say goodbye.

Say good-bye to not knowing when
The truth in my whole life began
Say good-bye to not knowing how to cry
You taught me that

And I'll remember the strength that you gave me
Now that I'm standing on my own
I'll remember the way that you saved me
I'll remember

Inside I was a child
That could not mend a broken wing
Outside I looked for a way
To teach my heart to sing

And I'll remember the love that you gave me
Now that I'm standing on my own
I'll remember the way that you changed me
I'll remember

I learned to let go of the illusion that we can possess
I learned to let go, I travel in stillness
And I'll remember happiness
I'll remember [I'll remember]
Mmmmm... [I'll remember]
Mmmmm...

And I'll remember the love that you gave me
Now that I'm standing on my own
I'll remember the way that you changed me
I'll remember
[I'll remember]

No I've never been afraid to cry
Now I finally have a reason why
I'll remember [I'll remember]

No I've never been afraid to cry
And I finally have a reason why
I'll remember [I'll remember]

No I've never been afraid to cry
And I finally have a reason why
I'll remember [I'll remember

 

[cumluv]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

hey Bri I think i your one great dude. Only a truly good person would care that much about thier students. Bri you will make a great teacher. It might hard to let them go. But you changed your students in good way. Just keep being yourself. It's kinda amazing when just reading someones thread you can learn so much about someone. Just keep being yourself and you will do just fine. What grade do you teach.

 

[LostVegas]

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Thanks LUV- I teach in Brooklyn NY...I taught 8th grade this year...7th grade last year..next year I have been put with the 6th grade...which will be a little easier, since they are new and coming to me already scared.

TTYL Brian

 

[Lube]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Wow, a totally heartwarming story. Good going!

Just remember, you get to do this again next year! You must be a fantastic influence on your students. Congratulations; you're a great person, Bri.

 

[frankfrank]

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Guess what, Bri, you're not the only one with tears today. GOOD tears, no less. That's the best kind, and there's not much that "beats" that.

Thank you for sharing. Stories and happenings like this are what make all of us know that JUB is truly a special place.

We are all hoping, too, that you'll be able to make a trip to LV in the not too distant future. The last I heard, Kulindahr's offer was likely still good, and I'm thinking he still has that friend who can get you out there and back. I remember a posting from you that said you couldn't go out until October now, because you couldn't afford to do so. But what if a trip is more or less handed to you? I don't know if this is still true or not, but he will no doubt read my post as well, and he can update on the validity and timeliness of what was suggested in the past.

I feel it very important that the two (three) of you do meet again as soon as possible. As difficult as it is on you, I feel that Andy is finding it even harder to deal with. The thought crossed my mind that, if he were to have any kind of setback in the meanwhile (ANYTHING - whether relating to you or not), could he perhaps be suicidal? PLEASE do what you can to get out there as soon as you possibly can. I realize it's just a visit and not a move, but I get this feeling that it is perhaps even BEYOND necessary at this time. You both need to see each other, and I mean that seriously.

We all eagerly look forward to good news regarding all of this, and thank you again for telling us about you and fivefourteen. It sounds like you have made a lifetime impression on some of these kids...

 

[CGHJ]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Wow, none of my teachers ever cared about any class I was in that much. I think that's sooper cool. I think you and Andy should open a day care center, or if you like your kids older, a learning center. I'm being slightly facetious but somehow I can just picture it.

 

[LostVegas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Hey guys back with another update.

First two off topic comments..

CG-Funny you mention a day care center because that is what his girl is interested in doing and at one time we were all on board to do just that.(Did you ever get my PM CG?? )


Superman Returns...good movie...not great...not bad either. Could have used a lot more action...Parker Posey rocked as always.


Anyway back to the not so exciting stuff..


My buddy and I have been exchanging calls like always.


Today was the last day that I helped him out.

We are both kind of scared. Considering when I help him out hes kind of good for two weeks...but after this is up...who knows what will happen.

Hes afraid to come back to NYC...and I fear if they do come back..things will be strained.

Where will they stay? The mother is gone from the old apt. they used to all share...and staying with the dad would be so very iffy..because the family was against him before this move..so them coming back will not be good.

And what about his mother..she just came back from a few weeks on the road with her hubby..but she moved out to Vegas JUST to be closer to her son, my buddy...what if he had to come back here?
And this would be the second time that my buddy has been in Vegas and not worked, while his fiancee worked...her family will not like that...

Plus there is the fact that no one knows that situation hes going through.

I am the only one who truly knows what is going on with him.

Me, his mom and his fiancee know that hes not working.

Everyone back on the East coast here, his friends and her family included, think hes working.

His best friend besides me(he says he doesnt consider me a friend, but a brother) is coming down to visit Vegas August 1-7th...and my buddy is embarrassed to have him come there and see him in that state. This is a friend that has been growing colder and more distant to my buddy for a while now. Hes jealous of my relationship with my buddy(Ive known him 4 years and Im closer than they ever will be), and he told my buddy that when he comes down there with his girl that hes going to be playing poker and seeing the sights with his girl, with not too much time to hang.

Last night I was with a guy that I met online...and I told my buddy that Id be getting some action at a certain time..and what did he do? Called me 6 times on my cell, to the point that I had to put it on silent...when I got home 4 missed calls from him on my machine. The message on my cell had not a word from him, instead he put the speaker to his car radio to the phone and played me Taylor Hicks' new song...

I called him and hes like wtf? I been calling you all ngiht..And im like bro did you really want me to pick up and talk to you while I was getting a blowjob..and he was like I dont care what you are doing..I dont even care If you are havign sex... pick it up just to tell me you will call me back later...

Anyway we got to talking sexually..and I was aroused and stroking...normally I can shoot off a load while talking to him, but today he was talking so much, it took my mind off of it..so I told him bro Ill call you back and hes like why??? I go I just will...I hang up wack off and call him back..and hes like you just jerked off didnt you? I was like yeah ..I got too excited from all the talk.

We talked...we both got down as usual...and I told him tomorrow has to be it..Im broke..dead ass broke...I told him a visit now in August is 100% out of the equation with all I have to do(schooling, vet procedures for my Dante, and getting new clothes for the school year this fall)

He kept trying to convince me to get a loan for all of us..but as much as I let him talk about it(to get it out of his system) I told him that wouldnt be a good idea...


So here I am guys...these are the options I have in front of me...


A)Be spontaneous and just go out there this summer and try and make it.

B)Stay here for another year. Finish my masters...and save up and go out there next year.


C)Stay here for another two years. Finish both my masters and second masters....save up enough to move out there and buy a car and pu money down on a house and def. get a teaching job..This second Masters would be in School Administration and I would be taking it with my brother. It would give me e a chance to get a Asst. Principal job and earn double what I make now...The only bad thing about this plan is the length in time..

D)I would really like to work on a much put off stand up comedy tryout..I think I would be good at it. I always wanted to do it.

Guys Im lost as to what to do...


I think in all honesty things dont look good for my bro.

If he ever did come home, things would not be good with him and his girl, etc.

And even if it did last with them, and the time came for ME to go out to Vegas...Andy would go, even if he was with his girl and she said no to going out there a 3rd time.

And say I stay here and hes still in Vegas..I think me being out here for so long would make him come back home anyway.

I said hes lucky in many ways..hes got a partner..someone to come home to and put his head down besides and get comfort and support from..and he goes "you think huh? you dont know anything! I go to her for help and she laughs and mocks me and degrades me...she calls me a mooch and a loser all the time for continuing to accept money from you...."

He said the only one that supports him is me.

I told him I made mistakes too....and he like what? And im like nevermind....what I wanted to tell him was that I helped him out a lot because I was in love with him...and he kind of knows that because he asked me before and I said no..and he went "I dont know Bri..I think you did.."

Anyway..gave him the money today..was down about it and he knew it....he kept thanking me...and said we will speak later...that was 6 hours ago...ttyl guys Bri

PS-That student of mine Marcus called me..."just to check up on me and make sure Im ok"....it was cute and brought a smile to my face...Brian

 

[CGHJ]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

lol he knows you jerk off when you talk to him and you still think he's straight

And how long do you think he'll stay with someone that mocks and degrades him? That's not going to last forever. You just have to have patience.

I really, truly, honestly think you need to stop being all hung up about accepting charity from your JUB buddies and take Ky's offer of freq flier miles. You can live cheaply while you're there, other than having to pay for some 7-ll runs etc, if you took the miles you could afford to get there this August.

And you need to go, and see what happens in person. If I had just one chance to be with my "one" again, I'd fucking walk to Las Vegas...from Tibet. And here you can fly for free! I'd do it if I were you.

I don't think you should try to stay and make it...but I think if you go out to see him A) the separation you have to endure will be more tolerable, and you'll have all kinds of fun memories to talk about over the coming year and B) it may hasten the day when he decides he'd rather be with you than with her. That day will come, it is inevitable. I'd stake my left nut that you two end up together.

And no, I did not get your PM! I don't have PM's hooked up. You're always welcome to email me though.

 

[Kyanimal]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Hey, Bri

I'm going to vote for Option C. You've got a good "thing" going, with worthwhile, achievable, goals. It IS Your best course of action for a good, solid, Future! And ... I'm sure You KNOW it!

I can only wish I had my "stuff" together, at that point in my life, like You do! Things would have worked out quite differently for me! Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Things have worked out pretty well ... all things considered. But, had I had my head on my shoulders, instead of buried up my butt, I would not now have as many regrets, or "what if's" to wonder about.

I know there are always those considerations about how will it effect everyone else. What should You do for the best outcome for all involved? But ... and I'll be quite frank about this ... the Best things to do are what is Best for YOU!!

Your Life is, currently, the only one that You are truly Responsible for! As much as You might want to, as compassionate as You may be, as Big as Your Heart truly is, and even with all the best intentions in the World, You simple can NOT take Responsibility for the Future Lives of Others! That is THEIR Job!! And You can NOT direct Your Life around the "what if's" of Others!

Oh ... You can try! But ... "what if" things don't turn out the way you Intended? "What if" the others don't react the ways You expected? "What if" the sacrifices You are willing to make, for Their well being, actually come to Naught? THEY need to take Responsibility for Them. And YOU need to take Responsibility for You.

Look at it this way ... The best way You can help Them, the best way You can be there for support, is to be coming from the best position of Strength that You can! In order to be of any good to Others, You must first consider what is Best for YOU!

So ... yeah! ... I'm voting for Option C! Two little years are really hardly any time at all!! Especially for all the possible benefits!

But ... in the mean time ... like Joe reminded you ... if you wish, those miles are just waiting to be used! Please give it some serious thought, Heh?

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[LostVegas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Hey guys back with another small update.


Friend called me drunk the other night, saying he never drinks to make his trouble go away, but figured hed try that night...we were being sweet on each other and I could have easily just pushed the envelope and gone too far with my words but I pulled back...I was kind of hoping he would slip up and say something but he didnt..he wasnt that drunk, just tipsy. He said he couldnt believe, besides his wife, how much he loves someone else and how close we got over the years.


Spoke to my buddy again early this morning. He was down and stuff and his girl has off tomorrow so she didnt go to bed early...she was in the room so he had to whisper..he said hell call me back later.

He called me back and was playing an online poker tournament ...and he said that he has to call someone back on wednesday for an electiricans apprentice job....and he also was saying that if by August he doesnt get anything...that him and his girl are going to move into his moms apt, which is right across the way, a few feet away from them.


I told him that it seems like he got a stay of execution, and that he needs to run with this and make the most of it.

I on the other hand can do nothing more now than support him. My financial ties to him are over. For good. Any money I get goes in my pocket, my bank account...unfortunately I invested so much emotionally and finanically into a love that will never be given back to me the way Ive been with him...what a harsh lesson to learn.

Im leaning towards, as hard as it is right now, going for finishing both Masters..and staying here a little longer and saving up.


When I was talking to my buddy there was silence and I said what you doing..and he said watching worlds sexiest women on E!...and I was like ...alright bro, goodnight.

My only problem now is that Im still in love with him. And I need to deal with it.

-Vegas-ttyl

 

[LostVegas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Ok guys back with a small update.

Im kind of confused and I throw my hands up in the air.


I decided, much to the behest of many of the JUBers here, to be more positive and to pull back a little affectionately when my buddy calls.

Now this means that I will still be supportive and caring and nice, but without OVER-doing it..for example, I would lay low with "I miss you so much you dont even know" mushy stuff.


So that being said my buddy calls.

He had called earlier and I was out walking Dante.


He said where were you..I called..I told him where I was..He asked what I did today...I said hung out with Matt briefly and then went to the grocery store.

He goes I thought you were not involved with him anymore..I said I wasnt and nothing is serious or has changed.

He said he misses me so much there that hes sad tonight.

I told him that it doesnt make sense for us to beat ourselves up over it, considering there is nothing anyone can do right now.

I said to look foward to Wednesday(when he has to call for a job interview appt) and hope for the best..I told him not to worry because I just know he will turn things around and make things right.

He asked what I was doing now..I told him watching WWE RAW.

He said that I seemed to sound positive today...and that hes worried and sad...I told him whats to be sad about? I just know you are going to turn things around...

He said Im more sad and worried about you not being here..

I went into my positive talk again and he kind of cut me short and asked if Id be around later...I said yeah...he goes Ill call you then.

We hang up..and in m gut, because I know him like a book...I just know there will be no phone call later..and I was right.

Im confused...even though I am sad a little and worried for him..I didnt let it show in a negative way...I miss him so much..but I pulled back with it a little because he knows how I feel about him...and I didnt want to get him more down...but it seems me being positive backfired..it was something he didnt want to hear I guess at the moment..and so in a way I think he "punished" me by not calling...

I do not get this behavior..can anyone else elaborate?? Bri

 

[CGHJ]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Yes! You misunderstood about pulling back. I'm sorry buddy, I shoulda been clearer.

He likes the msuhy stuff because he likes pretending that the two of you are together without having to actually say it or confront it. It's easier just to "be" it and leave it unsaid. You don't have to pull back from "I miss you", you just can't make him confront the reality of his feelings for you or he'll freak. He likes the mushy parts. it's what keeps him going. And in fact a pull back from that in conjunction with "I was hanging with Matt" makes him worry that he's going to lose you to Matt. That's a bigger worry for him than you give him credit for.

So, "Andy, I miss you and I wish you were here with me." = good.
"Andy, I wish you were gay so we could run away and be together." = bad.

You two can be as gay as you want with each other. You can cool like lovebirds, you just can't tell him that you're fucked up about the fact that you can't have sex with him (yet). You can't tell him that you wish he'd leave his girl for you, or that will freak him out. You have to trust that those things wil take care of themselves.

Next time you talk, the first words out of your mouth should be A) how much you miss him and B) all the ways that Matt sucks.

 

[LostVegas]

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Well, no sooner than I pressed enter to send my last reply...my buddy called.


He called sad, and worried about me coming out there and for having to start work soon.

He rented 3 movies and got into a fight with his girl, and then he fell asleep. He woke up anxious and gave me a call.

He asked if I could help him out with 80 bucks to help him get meds, because as he sees it he has a chemical imbalance that makes him get depressed and lead him to think about stuff and therefore he wont be able to work..I said bro I dont think the pills help you, I think its more mind over matter..I think you have just stuff bothering you.

I think a lot of your troubles come from having no job.

He said he was going to try and go back to sleep and if he needed me he would call.

He called about 10 minutes later.

He said one of his biggest troubles is the fact that he has no control over the situation or over me. He cant stop me from hanging with people and he has no control over me moving out there.

I started to ask the reason for the fight,..all he said was that it started over something dumb...and it escalated into something bad..and that they fell asleep fighting...

He started to drift off and I said let me let you go..and he said he will call later.

CG-I didnt pull back entirely, I still tell him I miss him...in fact I told him that two people I love left me...and that I think the pain is much worse for me..he said in no way is that the case, and that its more hurtful for him.

-Vegas-

 

[LostVegas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Totally forgot to add that he said some guy who is a friend of someone he knows said that there was a way he could get Andy a loan to get a house.....I was like WTF???

First I was like WTF?? Because everytime I mention a house to Andy he freaks out and says, hey that was our plan to do together...so I was pissed at that but didnt show it.

Secondly, and I told him this, I was freaked out that he was thinking bout this at this time..I told him not be a dream killer, but I couldnt think of a worse thing he could do right now...

He said the guy said he could probably get him like a 250k loan...and I was skeptical right off the bat because they both have really bad credit...and one is in bankruptcy..

Then he said he probably wont get the loan and even if he could, hed be happier knowing that he could at least get one...ttyl Bri

 

[JakeLucas]

Re: Undying love for my best friend...please read(long)

Brian,

CG is right...

He likes the msuhy stuff because he likes pretending that the two of you are together without having to actually say it or confront it. It's easier just to "be" it and leave it unsaid.

Andy is totally head-over-heels in love with you...in a straight guy kind of way. Deep down inside he knows he is in love with you, but his straight-guy brain can't deal with that right now. He talks to you the way someone talks when they are completely in love.

I'd bet he has had dreams about you two having sex....but he won't/can't tell you about that. He has asked you about the details of you and Matt having sex, so you know he has thought about it. He knows you jerk off when you guys talk about sex, so yeah, he has thought about it.

When you "pulled back" with the mushy stuff, and also mentioned Matt, Andy was probably dying inside. I mean, look at it this way....how do you feel when Andy talks about hanging with friends in LV? So imagine how he must feel when you don't say the mushy stuff and also talk about his "rival"!

He asked if I could help him out with 80 bucks to help him get meds, because as he sees it he has a chemical imbalance that makes him get depressed and lead him to think about stuff .....

Andy doesn't have a chemical imbalance...he's lovesick...and there ain't a pill for that.