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I got home from school today and took a nap.

Andrew called me three times but I ignored them because I was tired.

On the fourth time I picked up an he asked if I wanted to hang out. His girl's voice was in the background talking on the phone with someone else. He said he was in my area. I told him I didnt want to hang out, that I was too tired, but we will hang tomorrow.

He called me back again 3 hours later asking if I wanted to hang out again...I told him no that I was sleeping.

He then called me back 30 minutes later asking if he could use my bathroom, since he has to go and he was in my area. I told him no..and hes like can he use downstairs and I said no, because my folks live downstairs. He goes I just wanted to see what you were doing and what's going on with you.

Anyway I hung up an that was it for that.

I am not looking foward to seeing him tomorrow. In fact speaking to him today kind of made me angry. I dont know if it is because I am tired right now or because it is evident by Andrew's non chalant attitude with me, that he still doesnt get why I have not even seen him once this trip. So I might call him tomorrow and tell him it is best we do not meet. I guess I will see how I feel.

~~~Bri~~~
 
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I am not looking foward to seeing him tomorrow. In fact speaking to him today kind of made me angry. I dont know if it is because I am tired right now or because it is evident by Andrew's non chalant attitude with me, that he still doesnt get why I have not even seen him once this trip. So I might call him tomorrow and tell him it is best we do not meet. I guess I will see how I feel.

So don't.

Why are you bothering?

What is he possibly going to give you that's going to be useful or beneficial to you? Sorrow? Repentance? Money? Closure?

You'll get none of those things Brian. What you'll get is angry, depressed, and turned upside down emotionally. I say again, you're too close to this to be objective and detached. It's still too new.

All your going to get tomorrow is fucked, and not in a good way. He's going to sleep perfectly fine tomorrow night.

The question is, will you?

Don't think I'm backpedaling on what I told you earlier either, both here and in PM. You need to let him go first to see if he'll even come back. That hasn't happened yet. Save yourself the pain. Call Latoya instead, or else go for a drive. The money you waste in gas chugging around the city will still be less than the pain you're going to go through when you see him face to face and listen to his bullshit tomorrow.
 
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Of course I understand that. But don't fool yourself thinking that everyone here is interested in your mental health. To most it's just entertainment, you can see it in the way most stopped posting to your thread once they realised that Andrew is an asshole and nothing is ever going to happen between you two.

I love Latoya, never met her but seems such an amazing person. Now she's the kind of person you need to keep close. Good luck with meeting Andrew, don't get emotionally manipulated. Watch yourself.

Sorry, Tazz, but this certainly is NOT considered "entertainment" by quite a lot of "Us"! Many are very concerned for Brian's wellfare, and mental health! If we weren't, we wouldn't keep posting, and this thread would have died long ago!

I haven't been posting, all that much, recently, because things seem to be going well ... MUCH Better than before! And ... Brian has been getting some Fantastic advice from quite a few others! But ... I have been faithfully "keeping up"!

I do have to admit this may seem "entertaining" to some extent. Brian has fearlessly let "Us" into His Life, and some of His inner most thoughts! Who couldn't find that "Interesting"?

But, the majority of those posting are truly Concerned for a Friend that we've never, actually, met! And, that is one of the amazing, and bonding, properties of JUB!

I can agree with you, Tazz, about Latoya, though! Would LOVE to meet Her, and Brian, and even Dante, one of these days!!

Brian, "Bud"! Follow Your Heart! Your perspective is much clearer now! You certainly DO NOT "owe" Andy ANYTHING, at ALL! He doesn't deserve to even share Your company! And, please, do keep us posted! "We" really Do CARE!! (group)

And, of course, no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!! :kiss:(*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
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So don't.

Why are you bothering?

What is he possibly going to give you that's going to be useful or beneficial to you? Sorrow? Repentance? Money? Closure?



You'll get none of those things Brian. What you'll get is angry, depressed, and turned upside down emotionally. I say again, you're too close to this to be objective and detached. It's still too new.

All your going to get tomorrow is fucked, and not in a good way. He's going to sleep perfectly fine tomorrow night.

The question is, will you?

Don't think I'm backpedaling on what I told you earlier either, both here and in PM. You need to let him go first to see if he'll even come back. That hasn't happened yet. Save yourself the pain. Call Latoya instead, or else go for a drive. The money you waste in gas chugging around the city will still be less than the pain you're going to go through when you see him face to face and listen to his bullshit tomorrow.

ditto......

It is just creepy in a psycho kind of way that he has to keep phoning you because he is determined to be in control of the agenda; possibly to have you unsettled. I would have told him to piss in the gutter.

As it is, good for you that you didn't let him take control.
 
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(*8*) KY (*8*) Thanks so much for those kind words.

Now...I came home from work today. I had to go see my uncle in the rehab center he was at...and when I came home I passed out an took a little nap. So I was running a tad behind. I woke up, shaved and showered, got dressed and called Andrew to see what we were doing.

He was in the car, with his best man and his friends. I said whats doing. He said, "Oh I was out with my friends, and we are going to such and such place now..."

He goes, "I hope I get a chance to see you at the wedding Sunday...I hope I get to see you..."

I was like ummmm what about right now? Like we planned? And he is like bro, you should have called me like you said you were going to. I explained my situation. I go oh ok I see its my fault that we are not hanging now, I see. I go, you know what, that's cool. You do what you got to do.

I go oh Andrew, where IS your wedding anyway, seeing as you have not even told me yet. He told me where it was...and then he goes, well you got the invitation it said it on there...I also let that go. He full well knows I didnt get the invite...but you know what...he was in the car with his friends...and I KNEW he was being fake, because like ALWAYS, when he is around people and I speak to him, he CANNOT be himself.

Anyway...this all happened so so quick...and before you knew it..I was off the phone with him saying, "I guess I might see you Sunday.."

Latoya had called me just as I hung up with him and I told her what happened. And she goes, "See..he is playing games with you..he knew full well for two whole days that you set aside thursday to chill with him and he was purposely with friends, hoping you would call.."

And of course..I knew she was right.

Then my anger hit. I hung up with Latoya. I called Andrew..he was in the car with his loser friends. I go, "Yeah Andrew I think this would be the best time to tell you that I have no intentions on going to your wedding."

He is like WHY? I go because of what has been going on and the shitty way you have handled my friendship. I was supposed to be your best man, you picked someone else. There was no thought to put me in the wedding party. You have not, until today, told me where your wedding is...

Not only am I not going Sunday...but I think I am done with our friendship. No, in fact, I know I am done with our friendship...I want you, from the bottom of my heart, to have a great time sunday...and to have all the love, success, health and happiness in the rest of your life. "

Because he is in the car with his macho buddies, and because he cant have a confrontation with me in front of them, because they would be let in on personal shit..he goes "Ok, if that is what you want..."

"And I go yeah, for a very long time now...goodbye Andrew."

I go hang out with Latoya, because a weight lifted in me some.

On my way to her house...there was a 1% part of me that was re thinking the phone call I just placed. And then the 99% of me thinks of the pain and it helps me move on.

Knowing Andrew, I KNEW tonight, that my call wasnt the last time I would hear from him.

In fact, after a while of driving around and getting coffee, he called. Latoya goes, "who is that?" I go, take a guess..and she goes, "you know I was sitting here wondering when he was going to call..we both knew that was coming..."

So for the fuck of it..and at this stage in the game IT IS just for the fuck of it...I get the call that I knew I was going to get...he was at his friends house, in the bathroom calling me...of course AWAY from his friends.

He asked me why I was so mad and why Im not going to anything Sunday and how sad he is about all of this.

I told him I am pissed off royally. I told him about the wedding stuff I am pissed off at.I said it was shitty of you to DIS invite my guest that I had planned to bring..and he goes well she wanted to come for the wrong reasons...I go she wanted to come to support ME, so it was all for the right reasons.

I told him about waiting 4 days to call me after he got to NYC...I told him that I finally set aside a fucking night to chill with him and he stood me up for friends he has been seeing 11 days now...

He goes I have been trying to see you but you keep avoiding me..I go AVOIDING YOU? I go Andrew I HAVE to fucking work..I am not HERE on vacation and la dee da like fucking you...this is where I LIVE...I had plans with people way before you got into town..I have work and the times you called me I had genuine plans or were sleeping. I go Im fucking 31 yrs old I got no time to be playing games with you like that.

He goes, well what about yesterday when I ask to use your bathroom, you were avoiding me...I go fuck yeah..you have not seen me in a year and a half but you re going to call me and ask to use my motherfucking bathroom? He goes it wasnt about that, I just needed to see you.

I go you expect me after a year and half of not seeing you and being mad at you, to suddenly be at your wedding and make like things are fine.

I go Andrew I am tired of being your dirty little secret on the side. You cant talk to me when others are around..I feel second fiddle to everyone in your life...two days before you came here you tell me you wish I was in your head to see how close you hold me in your heart...and you CONSISTENTLY do everything to NOT show that.

He said he was mad and jealous and having a hard time dealing with things. I go what hard time? He goes..Im stressed...I go about what..he goes life...and this wedding..I go Andrew what does that have to do with me?

I then finally go...PLEASE DONT GET THIS TWISTED...I am NOT saying all this to you because Im not your best man or in your wedding or because you didnt call me when you got to NYC...I go Im not 12..I can move on from those things.

I go it is because you have made no amends to make our friendship right. You have not paid me back shit...and you continue at the same time to treat me like shit...and I am totally done with it. I am NOT going to your wedding, but not to spite YOU, but rather for ME.

I go Im out driving and about to pick up a friend(Latoya was already in my car) and I said I have to go...he goes you going to be up late? I go Im hanging out then going home and going to sleep, I have WORK(and there he goes again, keeping me as his little secret, wanting to call me LATER WHEN HE IS ALONE).

He goes, I will call you later...I go Andrew, Ill be sleeping.

Latoya had to laugh because she saw it coming. She said it is hard to get poisonous people out your life..and right now Andrew is going crazy because this is probably the first time he has been rejected by someone in his life..and because he totally needs you in so many ways.

She said that if he called me tonight, that that would be the call that will be either him crying or being totally real with you and depressed because his guard will be down because no one will be around.

She said that because I have a heart and a big one, that I am probably feeling bad about not going to his wedding, because after all is said and done, he was a friend. I told her yeah a little. She said that is cool, you are human...she even told me to go if that would make me feel better. I told her no it wouldnt..so she supported me in that choice.

We drove around some more and I came home...

~~~Bri~~~
 
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Good for you Brian - I *knew* that everything would come out spontaneously triggered by some incident - rather than planned. Take care.
 
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Wow. You finally did it! I'm sure everybody here will be very proud of you, Brian! You handled that marvellously. I'm sure it may be a little hard for you since part of you may still love him but I'm sure you'll get over it in time.
 
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Well done, Brian! So proud of you, and yes you might feel hurt but if it helps just remember Andrew is a coward and incapable of changing. Nothing would ever change if you decided to keep him in your life. The dude loves mind games.

Maybe you shouldn't meet him after all, and I definitely don't see any point of you going to the shitty fake wedding. What a disaster his life is.
 
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Do you feel better now? You had your big conversation, you told him everything. Now it's time to say goodbye. NO more phone calls or plans, or even hope at this point that things'll get better.

Now you need to heal up and move on, because you're right, this isn't the last you've heard of him. But right now, you need to be done with him.

I have to give him credit for one thing, he made it blatantly obvious how he feels about you and "respects" you by what happened yesterday. Keep that in mind next time he calls.

You said all those things to him and got what? Nothing. This is what guys like this do. Whether from fear or pure masochism, they just sit there and take your objections, all the while trusting that they've got you on the hook. They are experts at getting people to do for them while putting out nothing but words in return.

The time for talk is over. Barring dramatic action, I'd say you're done for now.

Congrats, though I know it feels like a bittersweet victory right now.

It will get better though.
 
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Didnt hear from him again last night.

I feel good about the decisons I made and the things that were said.

I had a good day today. I am looking forward from here.

~~~Bri~~~
 
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bravo! i think you should end this thread. then start a new one with your status and WITHOUT Assdr-ew. Let not be reminded of and affected by him. No reason to feel bad for him. Just block his number. Let move forward.
 
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I knew this coming I just did not know when!

Good Job Brian, I am happy that you told him what you needed to tell him :)

Keep your head up buddy ;)
 
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Hey Brian, hang in there, you are a strong guy. I think that you did the right thing with the decision not to attend the wedding and doing the first steps to get rid of this unhealthy relationship. I think it's for the best! (*8*)
 
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Thanks for the supporting comments everyone.

So I am speaking to you from a very cold, windy, evening here in Brooklyn...god I love this weather.

Anyway...have not heard from him since our talk on Thursday night. It is clear to me that he either got the message or is trying to get back at me by not talking to me(I truly think it is the latter).

Whichever the case, I really doubt I will be hearing from him for a long, long while.

The past two days have been surprisingly easy to handle as will the next and final two days.

There is a small part of me that is mourning that it is finally over and that I will not be seeing him or hearing from him in a long while. Like it or not, he was in a few ways, a really good friend to me. He was the one person that asked me about my depression, the one that made me more confident in situations, and for whatever reasons, the one that started to get me out of my depression.

It's tragic that the bad things and the bad treatment he gave me at times outweighed all that. We had a unique friendship. There is an ounce of me that believes we might meet again or talk down the road...but as for me...for right now...I have healing to do. I have a lot of moving on for me to do. I have growing up to do. It is my hope, that he is doing the same.

It will be hard to see certain things, especially Vegas, without thinking of him. And I know there will be many times where he will be in situations that make him think about me. But I hope to not forget him, just that some days, when the pain is there it is easier to deal with.

I had given thought to end the thread and I think in a few more months I will do just that. I do however want to keep it open and post a tad bit more to show you pics of me, my apt, my car..and basically how my life has moved on. I know, not the most interesting of things, but I think I am doing it more for me..as a book end to this thread. Perhaps, to show others going through my situation, that it all doesnt always end like some cheap porno...but nor does it end in complete disaster.

So you will be hearing from me soon...thanks to all of you who have helped me through this no matter what advice you gave. Thanks to those who signed up just to comment, those who posted once and bailed, those who stuck through it all, and most importantly, those who have just simply read. THANKS~Brian



Over You

Now that it's all said and done,
I can't believe you were the one
To build me up and tear me down,
Like an old abandoned house.
What you said when you left
Just left me cold and out of breath.
I fell too far, was in way too deep.
Guess I let you get the best of me.

Well, I never saw it coming.
I should've started running
A long, long time ago.
And I never thought I'd doubt you,
I'm better off without you
More than you, more than you know.
I'm slowly getting closure.
I guess it's really over.
I'm finally getting better.
And now I'm picking up the pieces.
I'm spending all of these years
Putting my heart back together.
'Cause the day I thought I'd never get through,
I got over you.

You took a hammer to these walls,
Dragged the memories down the hall,
Packed your bags and walked away.
There was nothing I could say.
And when you slammed the front door shut,
A lot of others opened up,
So did my eyes so I could see
That you never were the best for me.
 
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FANTASTIC!, Brian!! ..|

Good thoughts! Excellent quote! And, yeah!, we're looking forward to those pictures! (Perhaps at least one of Latoya, and, you bet!, Dante, too?) (group)

Of course, and you know I mean this most sincerely ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!! :kiss:(*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
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Thanks as always KY...

Their wedding is literally happening as I type this...I have to admit it is an odd feeling, knowing that they are a 20 minute ride away getting married.

But anyway...update you guys soon...Bri
 
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Whew.

Over and done with.

Until he gets divorced next month and then he'll be chasing you again.

Or maybe he'll just find someone else to glom onto and leave you alone.
 
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Whew.

Over and done with.

Until he gets divorced next month and then he'll be chasing you again.

Or maybe he'll just find someone else to glom onto and leave you alone.

I vote for the first one, this isn't done by a long shot.

However, this is the time to heal, strengthen up, and move forward so that when he does come back, you'll be ready.

Congrats. Good luck with the mourning and moving on. Always keep your hope alive, there's millions of people out there to be met.

Now's the time to meet them.
 
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I came on to this thread last night, but was too tired to post.

Alabama Im cool with your advice, many people have stopped in to tell me that throughout this thread...and it is something I tell myself a little more each day to do.

The name calling and going back and forth is another thing, but thats not my problem. I never reported anyone for anything in this thread...I can deal with advice of any kind. Thanks, though...Im sure deep down your intentions were from a good place.

Latoya and I have a mutual friend who waitresses at the place where the reception was and lives right next door to the church. She said the wedding was on Saturday and not Sunday and the reception was that night from 7-11:30 with 58 people scheduled to attend.

So I guess he was in Vegas a day or two before I thought he was...but anyhow....things have been going ok...my emotions are a lot better than they thought I would be at this point. I am grateful for that.

~~~Bri~~~
 
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So I guess he was in Vegas a day or two before I thought he was...but anyhow....things have been going ok...my emotions are a lot better than they thought I would be at this point. I am grateful for that.

Thank God for small victories. It's not an easy road, but just be grateful for the things you do have.

Be grateful that you've mapped out a future that's free of this.

I can't wait until you find a guy that can give you the love you're looking for, because he'll be a lucky man, that's for sure.
 
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