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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

Changes were approved 32-21. Gov Quinn to sign :)

Totally unexpected. Great start to this week guys.
 
Alnitak said:
Passed with 61 votes, just two more than needed !!!

Now the senate will approve the changes.

Illinois becomes the 15th state and brings the country to 37% of the population.
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Boy, did you ever beat me to it. I got the email at 4:30 and you posted this at 4:10. Central time, of course. Way to go Illinois.
yayayayayayaay
 
Whoo whoo! Great news! Wish I had caught it while I was at work but things got hellishly busy at the end of the day. Let's work on getting all 50!
 
More good news. The Hawaii House committees have advanced the bill to the floor. Hawaii will be the next state.
 
Passing the one-third level (by population, not by number of states) is a REALLY big deal.

It will make it harder and harder for the highest Courts (ultimately the SCOTUS) to issue rulings which reverse all of this progress. Much more difficult to do so than ten years ago when Massachusetts was the only place that recognized these marriages.

And even much MORE difficult after the elections one year ago, when even places like the 3M states (Minnesota, Maine, Maryland) along with Washington State supported such rights by POPULAR VOTE, which had rarely happened before.

I still don't think that North Carolina (not that long ago) is the last state that will go "the other way" though - or do ALL of the "red states" now have antigay laws or Constitutional Amendments in place, in which case they've already gone the other way?
 
frankfrank said:
Passing the one-third level (by population, not by number of states) is a REALLY big deal.

It will make it harder and harder for the highest Courts (ultimately the SCOTUS) to issue rulings which reverse all of this progress. Much more difficult to do so than ten years ago when Massachusetts was the only place that recognized these marriages.

And even much MORE difficult after the elections one year ago, when even places like the 3M states (Minnesota, Maine, Maryland) along with Washington State supported such rights by POPULAR VOTE, which had rarely happened before.
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Progress won't be reversed by courts but it can be stunted. Still, the trajectory of case law is in our favor.

We can pick up nine states just by winning at the legendary 9th Circuit and the heavily Democratic 4th Circuit, which includes Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.

I still don't think that North Carolina (not that long ago) is the last state that will go "the other way" though - or do ALL of the "red states" now have antigay laws or Constitutional Amendments in place, in which case they've already gone the other way?
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How do you mean?

All but four conservative states have them. Wyoming, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Indiana are the holdouts. Only one of these, Pennsylvania, has a current state court fight. In addition, Indiana will be facing a potential amendment in 2014, but passage is not assured in the legislature.

North Carolina does have a constitutional amendment, but there is also a federal court case that has yet to go to trial, and it is under the jurisdiction of the Democratic 4th Circuit. The neighboring Virginia case is going to get there first, and could legalize North Carolina by 2015.
 
Yay for Illinois and soon, Hawaii. None of the election results today mattered to me as much as hearing this great news in the forward movement to marriage equality. Still by no means a won fight, but history is inevitably moving in that direction.
 
I might as well make this post where it belongs, rather than in "the other thread" where I first noticed this - I apologized for my post there being far, far off-topic. I don't even remember which thread it was, it was in HOT TOPICS, where I saw Rolyo85 make a post entirely unrelated to gay marriage, as that wasn't the topic.

But it was there, that I posted that seeing his avatar with Illinois covered in a rainbow for the first time, I couldn't help but start crying. I had already known about it being passed in this state, but seeing the entire state of Illinois depicted as a rainbow REALLY brought it home to me, in all its wonder and all my gratitude for Springfield finally doing the right thing, after something like twenty months of broken promises and delays.

(It WAS last year, right - or was it THIS year, early - when most people already thought it was a Done Deal?? When I'm having as much fun as I've been having so far this year, time does VERY strange things in my mind, and I can't tell whether this was about 7-8 or 19-20 months ago. Wow.)

It will allow some life-changing things to happen for some friends, and I know some WHO WILL INDEED get married in this state. One couple was all set to go to Iowa and get married, which until this week would have been merely ceremonial within these state borders. Now it can be done IN STATE!

Well, at least it's very imminent. I believe that it still has to be finished in the Senate, but it wasn't that chamber that put up all the opposition, it was the House in this state instead - and Governor Quinn has promised to sign it. So, even if it's not entirely passed and signed yet, it looks like it's a success!

Tears for me are rare, but they're usually a good thing, and certainly true this time. This is fantastic news, and well overdue. And thank you Rolyo.

Look...multiply that by thousands...all of that is now commerce which will not be outsourced to Iowa, New York, and other places anymore. It all adds up.
 
White Eagle said:
I doubt Texas will even consider it.

Or lets see what happens after 2016
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The state legislature won't, but there is a state divorce case that went to oral arguments yesterday at the Texas Supreme Court, and a federal case was just filed.
 
Illinois means that 30% of US states now have marriage equality.

But, because those states with marriage equality tend to be populous, I have made a rough calculation that 37% of the American population now has access to gay marriage. (If Hawaii becomes the 16th state soon, it will be 37.6% of the population).

2012 census data:

01 *California.............................38,041,430
02 Texas....................................26,059,203
03 *New York............................19,570,261
04 Florida...................................19,317,568
05 *Illinois...................................12,875,255
06 Pennsylvania........................12,763,536
07 Ohio.......................................11,544,225
08 Georgia...................................9,919,945
09 Michigan.................................9,883,360
10 North Carolina........................9,752,073
11 *New Jersey...........................8,864,590
12 Virginia....................................8,185,867
13 *Washington...........................6,897,012
14 *Massachusetts.....................6,646,144
15 Arizona...................................6,553,255
16 Indiana....................................6,537,334
17 Tennessee.............................6,456,243
18 Missouri..................................6,021,988
19 *Maryland...............................5,884,563
20 Wisconsin...............................5,726,398
21 *Minnesota.............................5,379,139
22 Colorado.................................5,187,582
23 Alabama .................................4,822,023
24 South Carolina.......................4,723,723
25 Louisiana................................4,601,893
26 Kentucky.................................4,380,415
27 Oregon....................................3,899,353
28 Oklahoma...............................3,814,820
29 *Connecticut...........................3,590,347
30 *Iowa........................................3,074,186
31 Mississippi...............................2,984,926
32 Arkansas.................................2,949,131
33 Kansas....................................2,885,905
34 Utah.........................................2,855,287
35 Nevada....................................2,758,931
36 New Mexico............................2,085,538
37 Nebraska................................1,855,525
38 West Virginia..........................1,855,413
39 Idaho.......................................1,595,728
40 Hawaii.....................................1,392,313
41 *Maine....................................1,329,192
42 *New Hampshire...................1,320,718
43 *Rhode Island........................1,050,292
44 Montana..................................1,005,141
45 *Delaware..................................917,092
46 South Dakota.............................833,354
47 Alaska.........................................731,449
48 North Dakota..............................699,628
49 *Vermont.....................................626,011
50 Wyoming.....................................576,412

District of Columbia...........................632,323

Total population of 15 marriage equality states + D.C. = 116,698,555

USA (2012 census estimate)..................313,914,040

% of population with access to gay marriage = 37%


http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population
 
Sausy said:
Yay for Illinois and soon, Hawaii. None of the election results today mattered to me as much as hearing this great news in the forward movement to marriage equality. Still by no means a won fight, but history is inevitably moving in that direction.
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And this is why I like you a bit more than the other "conservatives" here ;)
 
^ It's because of those "conservatives," Sausy is the only one that celebrates in good news posts of marriage equality and LGBT civil rights. The others are *always* silent, if not critical of such progress towards equality. Which is why their motives for being a part of this community are suspect.
 
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