What People Should Know About Bisexuals Is...

[Soilwork]

Paladin writes: I think you will find most gay guys prefer masculine guys too. I think gays like masculine guys and feminine guys. I'm not sure if they prefer masculine guys too. So that's why I questioned that statement.

Well, I'll tell you that from what I've seen, gay men also much prefer masculine guys to feminine guys.

And I've met a lot of bi men who will only shag men if they're in drag. I used to work in a drag bar and lot of married men who would self-identify as "bi" were there only to pick up the trannies.

If you really don't see the statements I've seen from so many bi guys about how much more evolved they are because they can love both men and women and how gay men are all jealous because you're all so much manlier than us and you can "Pass" for straight, then you just haven't been around long enough.

Trust me.. stick around.

 

[RRRalph]

Well, I'll tell you that from what I've seen, gay men also much prefer masculine guys to feminine guys.

And I've met a lot of bi men who will only shag men if they're in drag. I used to work in a drag bar and lot of married men who would self-identify as "bi" were there only to pick up the trannies.

Yep, those people excits too. By the way, didn't feel really short working along those high heals wearing drags?

If you really don't see the statements I've seen from so many bi guys about (1)how much more evolved they are because they can love both men and women and (2) how gay men are all jealous because you're all so much manlier than us and you can "Pass" for straight, then you just haven't been around long enough.

1) More evolved? What a weird idea.
2) Bisexuals can't do much about that. No need to be jealous, we live a complex life.

 

[Soilwork]

By the way, didn't feel really short working along those high heals wearing drags?

I'm 5 foot 6. I always feel short.

No need to be jealous, we live a complex life.

everyone does.

But yeah, bullshit like that can piss you off. anyway.. there you go.

 

[VICTORIADON]

I don't like all these bi-themed threads either. It's just asking for trouble in a place like this.

Ironic really, on a forum that's always preaching about open-mindedness, tolerance, acceptance and not judging people on their sexuality.

I do not make it a habit of going to the bi-sexual forum, the topics/people do not interest me in the least. If a thread pops up in New Posts, I may make a comment not aware that it was from the bi forum.
This thread however, if you go back to the first number of posts, #2 in particular, where a post of mine was hijacked without my knowledge and used to start a new thread, that is a gold plated hand delivered open invitation for me to defend myself. This whole thread was started by someone hijacking posts from other threads to promote their own agenda. That is wrong.

 

[VICTORIADON]

Argh.

Victoriadon... you first...

The term "Queer" doesn't mean exclusively "gay". It can also mean "Bisexual" or "Transgendered" or "Lesbian", so in the context he used it, it's ok. Not a big deal.

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The reason Victoriadon and I are here is that RRRalph called both of us out on page one, using quotes of ours from other threads (I'm guessing so we wouldn't know we were being quoted?) and using them a bit out of context. We had to come in and defend ourselves.

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I agree, "Queer" doesn't mean exclusively "gay."
I too have "bi" friends and I too have worked in a "gay" bar. The common thing about most "bi" people I know and am friends with is: that they are very protective of their "bi" label and will not be called "queer" and will not refer to themselves as "queer" unless it fits something in their agenda at the time they say it, then are quick to go back to "bi"
I haven't checked (and I'm not going to bother) but I doubt very many people on this site has put their orientation as "queer"

2nd quote:
Agree, I have addressed this issue in my previous post and addressed this issue back in post #33. The "new" posters in this "thread" have not gone back and read the thread to know how the conflict in this thread arose.

 

[blackbeltninja]

What people and soilwork should know about bisexuals is...

…that bisexuals don’t think they are better than gays.

What people should know about bisexuals is...

...we are no better, nor worse, than anyone else.

-d-

You know, I could swear that was my first post in this thread, way back at post #3, right after you opened the topic up. Seems to have been completely ignored, however.

In other words, people who are not interested in a “serious” relationship don’t date. People only go out on dates if they are looking for something more than just a one night stand.

Incidentally, Blueto, by your own definition, if you're dating a bi guy it's because he's interested in a LTR with a guy. Because if he wasn't, he wouldn't date them.

You haven’t presented a rational argument for me to consider. Nor do I believe that you can. So, my last words to you will be “so long and farewell my friend”.

Well, if you want to carry on believing in and propagating stereotypes and refusing to judge everyone on their merits or the lack thereof, then you must do that and accept the results of that choice.

But then please don't be surprised, annoyed or upset if someone does the same thing to you, in any sphere of your social, professional or personal life.

-d-

 

[VICTORIADON]

You know, I could swear that was my first post in this thread, way back at post #3, right after you opened the topic up. Seems to have been completely ignored, however.
-d-

I can't speak for RRRalph, but what you said might not have been contriversal enough, or he agrees.
BUT, you feel ignored, and that brings up another question for a new thread, and I'm not going to start a thread in the bi-sexual forum because I don't care.
If you are a bi-guy looking for a serious relationship with another guy, would you get involved with another bi-guy? Why/why not?

 

[VICTORIADON]

I can't speak for RRRalph, but what you said might not have been contriversal enough, or he agrees.
BUT, you feel ignored, and that brings up another question for a new thread, and I'm not going to start a thread in the bi-sexual forum because I don't care.
If you are a bi-guy looking for a serious relationship with another guy, would you get involved with another bi-guy? Why/why not?

Actually, make it a yes/no poll.

 

[Un_Golfo]

Yes I would do it, as far as I like him...

 

[blackbeltninja]

I can't speak for RRRalph, but what you said might not have been contriversal enough, or he agrees.
BUT, you feel ignored,

My feeling ignored is not the point and it is not an issue; and the post was not meant to be controversial.

The point is that right from the word go, the FIRST response from a bi guy about what we would like other people to know about us was that we do not perceive ourselves to be any better or any worse than anyone else - quite contrary to some of the things which have been said about us in this thread and others since.

-d-

 

[RRRalph]

You know, I could swear that was my first post in this thread, way back at post #3, right after you opened the topic up. Seems to have been completely ignored, however.

You're right!

 

[RRRalph]

This whole thread was started by someone hijacking posts from other threads to promote their own agenda. That is wrong.

I quoted your exact words and there's a link to your original message. What's wrong with that?

 

[VICTORIADON]

you say something?

 

[conrad]

Everyone should know that most of us are not happy with labels because they don't really reveal much. Many of us may describe ourselves as bisexual when what we want to say is that we live as straight persons but our thoughts range far out into the world of possibilites. We live "straight" but we often think "gay"; but most of us do not act according to our thoughts--only in our dreams and the fantasies that are brought forth by the photos available on this and other web-
sites. Are we betrayers of our kind? I don't think so; we're "closeted" but glad for the opportunity to be ourselves on an open forum such as this.

 

[VICTORIADON]

^I respect conrads' statement.

 

[Ragman]

This is interesting, I've learnt something about bisexuals that I didn't know.

Myself I'm not really sure if I'm bi or gay. I've had girlfriends, had sex, had boyfriends had sex, but ey, these days I just pound men and thats it. I definately enjoy man on man action more, and I havent had a woman for... 3 years?

Although I do find attractive woman very desirable.

 

[conrad]

It would seem that you have time to be sure that you do not fit yourself into one slot or other. My experience says "Just let it happen and don't close doors and limit your options.

Some may be agreeable to promiscuity; I offer you my judgement that a committed monogamus relationship is always to be preferred--and it's so much safer in so many ways. Friendshiips are life's best gifts to me and they ought to be guarded tenderly. When one finally agrees to "go all the way" one is, or should be, declaring, I believe, that this relationship is not "just for today". My observation is that those of us who follow the rule of concentration on the whole of the other person tend to be happier with our choices.

So, in summary, I would say that we are really very ordinary persons who know how to love and to be loved in return when we are acting according to the best of our nature. Some of us are so horny that we tend to forget the person who is attached to the "equipment" we want to join ourselves to; fortunately, most of us grow out of that failing. I'M GLAD TO BE ME; BUT, I ALSO SEE, YOU'RE JUST AS GLAD TO BE YOU.

PEACE.

 

[Ragman]

Cheers mate

Very true. I've been dating a guy for a year now, and there are times when you just feel so attracted to another bloke, but at the end of the day, you take a step back and see if you really want to risk what you're having with your parthner, and you know you're likely not to find that 'special thing'

Some call it cowardy, I call that courage to resist. Ah well.

But I'll stop here cos I'm straying off topic, but ey, cheers Conrad

 

[blackbeltninja]

^Nicely put, Conrad.

-d-

 

[VICTORIADON]

Let us all consider this thread dead and do no more posting in it. OK?