What People Should Know About Bisexuals Is...

[Un_Golfo]

Let us all consider this thread dead and do no more posting in it. OK?

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[Underdog]

...But I hate having my bisexuality questioned and put under scrutiny just because some people decide to use it as a smoke screen....I truly do love women too much to be gay and I'm surprised I even questioned it. On the flip side, I find men way too attractive to possibly be straight. It's just the way I am.

"What People Should Know About Bisexuals Is" is that dealing with it, and the feelings that go along with it, are more severe than being at the "ends of the range"-the exclusively gay side of sexuality or the exclusively hetero side of it. "It just is" to paraphrase Jordy and it ain't easy.

I have been married for 16 years, have not cheated, unless you consider porn cheating. It is not easy, never has been. I have been attracted to both men and women while being married, often far to the depths of my soul. I also know that I could really get into one-on-ones with men as much as with women.

I have chosen to be faithful--a sacrifice of "me" for the greater "we."

I know I probably won't get sympathy from some commentors here (oh, poor bi victim) but that's the way it is for me.

As for the cheating, some guys are dogs and always will be, regardless of marriage committments or relationship committments. Bisexuality shouldn't be used or an excuse to hurt people. They should probably be single.

 

[conrad]

You are so right, Underdog; it would seem that to suggest that those who stray from solemn commitments are either weak or uncaring risks being considered unfriendly to some posters. I hope you won't be deterred; relationships, especially those that involve sex, ought not be trivialized to the level of mere fun. The potential for joy, sorrow, and trouble is too great to mess with.

It's quite unimportant to me and many others how anyone labels himself; I'm just as happy to omit the labels. We are all different and that difference can make us interesting or dangerous. With all my faults I want still to love and be loved in return, but love requires that we take special care not to hurt others.

We act the way we do because we think the way we do and often we speak the way we do because we think the way we do. When our acting, thinking, and speaking are in harmony and all exhibit our concern for others we are more likely to be satisfied in our relationships. Be fair, be kind, and stay humble (we all have lots to learn in the area of relationships.

Peace!

 

[AmBi Dex]

bi-phobic people are really upset by fluidity and lack of clear dichotomy

I agree with this. Maybe it's just that 90% of people are always painting by numbers.

Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something.

Usually you see some axe grinding buffoon of this sort here, lecturing people about how they are "gay" if they ever wanted a cock in their mouth. Ridiculous. "Gay" and "Straight" are more artificial than Bi if you ask me. Nature abhors both vacuums and pure concepts.

The irony of "gay" preachers!

 

[blueto21]

I agree with this. Maybe it's just that 90% of people are always painting by numbers.

Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something.

Usually you see some axe grinding buffoon of this sort here, lecturing people about how they are "gay" if they ever wanted a cock in their mouth. Ridiculous. "Gay" and "Straight" are more artificial than Bi if you ask me. Nature abhors both vacuums and pure concepts.

The irony of "gay" preachers!

Oh, please, so we’re buffoons for desiring equal treatment under the law? Gays don’t deserve human rights. Gays don’t deserve to be treated equally under the law! Gays are subhuman and they should seek mental help for their sick demented psychological issues. (sarcasm) Are you kidding me?

NEWSFLASH:

Other people exist in the world and they/we deserve every single human right that heterosexuals and bisexuals, like yourself, take for granted. And there is nothing atypical about my homosexuality. Your bisexuality may be abnormal, but there is nothing abnormal about my sexual orientation. It is as normal and favored by nature as heterosexuality.

There's nothing artificial about my homosexuality, either. My homosexuality is very much real and natural. And it is inspired by nature. Now, I know this will go over your head and you won’t believe it BUT there actually are other people in the world who ARE “Gay” and “Straight”. We do exist! Not everyone’s bisexual. And thank god their not. Oh, by the way, no person in their right mind would date someone who says their sexuality is fluid. Unless, their dumb, dumb, dumb, and not the least little bit grounded in reality

 

[blackbeltninja]

There's nothing artificial about my homosexuality, either.

Um... perhaps before you have a complete meltdown, you should fully understand what AmbiDex was implying.

As I understand it, Kinsey's work indicated that 46% of men had bisexual tendencies; compared to approximately 10% claiming to be exclusively gay and the remainder straight. Purely numerically, the bisexual aspect is more prevalent than either of the absolutes. This leads to the suggestion that the two absolutes may in fact be the extraordinary examples, which puts AmbiDex's comment into perspective.

Your bisexuality may be abnormal, but there is nothing abnormal about my sexual orientation. It is as normal and favored by nature as heterosexuality.

As to whether or not homosexuality is favoured by Nature, as you put it, well... the trait may well be favoured by Nature if you attempted to pass it on and it was retained. However, by its own nature, there is usually no attempt to pass it on, which makes the trait something of a dead end and completely suicidal.

One must distinguish in all cases between what is NATURAL - as in not produced by an artificial process - and what is NORMAL. These two terms are not always mutually inclusive.

-d-

 

[RRRalph]

One must distinguish in all cases between what is NATURAL - as in not produced by an artificial process - and what is NORMAL. These two terms are not always mutually inclusive.

So true

 

[AmBi Dex]

Oh, please, so we’re buffoons for desiring equal treatment under the law? Gays don’t deserve human rights. Gays don’t deserve to be treated equally under the law! Gays are subhuman and they should seek mental help for their sick demented psychological issues. (sarcasm) Are you kidding me?

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough for some people. I didn't say gays don't deserve human rights - where could you get that?

I'm saying that the unthinking stupidity that gays attack, and rightly so, when arguing for equal rights - including being able to marry is ironically something they themselves reflect when they attack bisexuality. And also, the idea that homosexuality is completely determined by nature is a political pose - and frankly one of dubious logic. Why would one need to argue that one's sexuality had to be caused or fated by external forces in order for it to be protected somehow.

Just say it's the fucking pursuit of happiness and tell the bigots to get fucked. The choice vs nature thing is just comical.
Nature and natural are very problematic terms anyway - especially in relation to choice and volition. That is the two can and cannot be distinguished.

Even someone who has reason to believe their sexual preference is 100% for guys (and that would necessarily involve some experience with women as opposed to theory at a distance), still choses to move from potential to actual. There's no way to avoid the choice part. There's also no reason to worry about it, since the whole "born gay" thing - as a defence is a waste of time.

 

[blueto21]

I didn't say gays don't deserve human rights - where could you get that?

Allow me to quote you to prove my point.

Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something. Usually you see some axe grinding buffoon of this sort here, lecturing people about how they are "gay" if they ever wanted a cock in their mouth.

Now, when I read this I interpret it to mean something totally different from what you are claiming it says. If I understood this correctly you are implying that gay’s sexuality is abnormal. So, therefore we are seeking “special rights” when we take action and fight for our civil liberties and human rights. That’s the first thing. Then you go on to say that gays have an annoying tendency to prove that their sexuality is NORMAL and NATURAL and why they should be treated equally under law. So, you think it is a cheap idea for homosexuals to defend themselves against the anti-gay rhetoric that tries to brainwash people into believing that homosexuality is a choice and therefore we don’t deserve any human rights as a result? What planet are you living on? There is nothing cheap about me or any other homosexual defending ourselves and fighting against those buffoons who are trying to deny us our god given human rights. Their whole argument is based on the assumption that homosexuality is a choice and that it’s unnatural and that it can be cured. If they can prove that then they can deny us OUR GOD GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS! Do you see how this works?

I'm saying that the unthinking stupidity that gays attack, and rightly so, when arguing for equal rights - including being able to marry is ironically something they themselves reflect when they attack bisexuality.

No it’s not. And you’re wrong for comparing such circumstances. The gays in this forum who have expressed their discomfort and opposition to dating bisexual men have already given good logical reasons for their positions. We’re not saying bisexual men are subhuman. We’re not saying bisexual men should be treated any less than any other human being. We’re not saying bisexual men should be denied their civil rights and civil liberties. What we are saying is that it is a bad idea for a gay man to date a bisexual guy when the majority of them are not even interested in having a real relationship with a guy. And most of them will break the gay guy’s heart anyway by leaving him for some female because of their fluid sexual orientation. That’s just apart of their innate nature. They have no control over it. That’s what we are saying and there is a BIG difference between what is being said here vs. what you are comparing it to.

And also, the idea that homosexuality is completely determined by nature is a political pose - and frankly one of dubious logic.

No, actually there have been numerous studies that suggest that homosexuality is innately driven and therefore it is completely natural.

Why would one need to argue that one's sexuality had to be caused or fated by external forces in order for it to be protected somehow.

You mean external forces within the womb right? Well, anyway to answer your question because if they can prove that homosexuality is a choice and that it’s curable then they can deny us our civil liberties and human rights. I’m not sure where you reside but I live in the U.S. and YES we are supposedly and country that believes in freedom but we still have laws and regulations. You can’t do whatever you want to do. We still must follow the LAWS of the land.

 

[spikethecat]

What we are saying is that it is a bad idea for a gay man to date a bisexual guy when the majority of them are not even interested in having a real relationship with a guy. And most of them will break the gay guy’s heart anyway by leaving him for some female because of their fluid sexual orientation. That’s just apart of their innate nature. They have no control over it.

You don't see this statement as being bigoted? what is wrong with making case by case analysis of personalities. You are accusing ME of things by making such broad, sweeping statements. I can understand if you don't want to date bi-sexuals. But don't tell me what I have no control over.

If I understood this correctly you are implying that gay’s sexuality is abnormal.

What he seems to have said is that bisexuality to various degrees is more prevalent than true 100% homosexuality. You brought the word abnormal into the situation.

Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something.

What I understand this to say is that it is disheartening to see people who relate to themselves as "Gay" will fight society to be recognized as individuals despite their sexual orientation. Then you will deny others the same courtesy because of a sexual orientation that is different from yours. hypocritical wouldn't you say?
Bisexuals are homosexuals, just not exclusively so.

Don't blame me because you came across a self centered asshole. All I am asking is that you don't think that I am a self centered asshole just because of who I like to fuck. If you think I am an asshole thats OK, but please base it on something else besides my sexual orientation.

Is that too much to ask?

 

[blackbeltninja]

If they can prove that then they can deny us OUR GOD GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS!

At the risk of derailing everyone's train... human rights are human concepts, not God given at all.

If our man G believed in human rights, many things Mr G did himself in the bible would definitely not have happened, I should wager - no great flood, that's for damn sure, and no destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, for starters.

-d-

 

[Un_Golfo]

For me, God is an invention of people, unless you can prove to me it's real... And I am talking of every God. But, if you believe in God(s), no problem with me. I will never try to convince you of my ideas unless you bring up the topic.

And Human Rights were created by a commission somewhen in XX century, and they were quite advanced and complete. But in my opinion there is time for a revision, there are still some things to be added.

If people accepted that homosexual behaviour is not bad, then you could easily abandon the idea of it's something you are predestinated. It's a point in the middle of choice and genetics, probably. But I can't think of it as a Black/white dichotomy; there are many grays in the scale.

What people should know about bisexuals is that every bisexual guy is different.

 

[AmBi Dex]

you are implying that gay’s sexuality is abnormal. So, therefore we are seeking “special rights” when we take action and fight for our civil liberties and human rights. That’s the first thing. Then you go on to say that gays have an annoying tendency to prove that their sexuality is NORMAL and NATURAL and why they should be treated equally under law

Blueto21, clearly you need to learn how to read. This interpretation is plainly idiotic. No I didn't say gay sexuality is abnormal in any sense of "bad". I said that gays pursue equality under the law and put not special rights in parentheses!

And the rest of your stuff... argh. I have seen self described "gays" attack the concept of bisexuality. And it is ironically as bereft of cognition as the asswipes who blather on about homosexual vectors being "unnatural" or whatnot.

And who cares about your thesis regarding whether self described gays should "date" bisexuals!! Why would bisexuals care anyway, since a large number of them are not trying to ape a negative version of heterosexual romantic ideals in the first place - at least not with respect to men. And in your post we see the uncritical unthink deployed yet another way. Namely the blithe assumption that gay men are in possession of the truth about what "real relationships" are. Sounds like some drivel from a gay Dr. Phil pamphlet. Same for the cliche references to "innate orientation" and "no control".

actually there have been numerous studies that suggest that homosexuality is innately driven and therefore it is completely natural.

Actually, you are under the erroneous impression that this statement somehow counters skepticism over any claim of "complete determination". You even use the term "suggest" without appearing to show any appreciation for the scientific attitude from which it derives.

if they can prove that homosexuality is a choice and that it’s curable then they can deny us our civil liberties and human rights.

Non sequitur. Spare me the weird "LAWS of the land" invocation and try to follow laws of logic.

You make some attempt to counter the suggestion that gay people, assuming there are 100% gay people, are not guilty of bullshit in their attitudes toward bisexuality. And yet, we get a heavy dose of emotionalized, quick reaction against anything that impinges upon sacred cows and received wisdom. Another lecture, pumped with conceit over the knowledge of "real relationships" that begs questions and doesn't even bother to comprehend before acting out.

 

[blueto21]

Blueto21, clearly you need to learn how to read. This interpretation is plainly idiotic. No I didn't say gay sexuality is abnormal in any sense of "bad". I said that gays pursue equality under the law and put not special rights in parentheses!

And the rest of your stuff... argh. I have seen self described "gays" attack the concept of bisexuality. And it is ironically as bereft of cognition as the asswipes who blather on about homosexual vectors being "unnatural" or whatnot.

And who cares about your thesis regarding whether self described gays should "date" bisexuals!! Why would bisexuals care anyway, since a large number of them are not trying to ape a negative version of heterosexual romantic ideals in the first place - at least not with respect to men. And in your post we see the uncritical unthink deployed yet another way. Namely the blithe assumption that gay men are in possession of the truth about what "real relationships" are. Sounds like some drivel from a gay Dr. Phil pamphlet. Same for the cliche references to "innate orientation" and "no control".


Actually, you are under the erroneous impression that this statement somehow counters skepticism over any claim of "complete determination". You even use the term "suggest" without appearing to show any appreciation for the scientific attitude from which it derives.


Non sequitur. Spare me the weird "LAWS of the land" invocation and try to follow laws of logic.

You make some attempt to counter the suggestion that gay people, assuming there are 100% gay people, are not guilty of bullshit in their attitudes toward bisexuality. And yet, we get a heavy dose of emotionalized, quick reaction against anything that impinges upon sacred cows and received wisdom. Another lecture, pumped with conceit over the knowledge of "real relationships" that begs questions and doesn't even bother to comprehend before acting out.

I knew you would try and side step away from what you actually said. Typical, typical, TYPICAL! It never surprises me when people of your nature don’t own up to their own confessions. Don’t think for one second you can post your manure and have it go unchallenged. Perhaps, you should re-read what you type before clicking the submit icon. Anyone with half a brain could see what you WERE implying in your initial post to this thread. I’ll quote you again and DON’T MISS IT THIS TIME!

Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something.

Look up the term atypical since you clearly don’t understand what it means. I’m not going to do the work for you. You were clearly implying that homosexuality is abnormal and that homosexuals are seeking special rights. Your supposedly, emphasize on “special rights” was satirical and marred by your use of the term atypical when you describe homosexuality. I’m not buying it one bit. You can’t fool me. And how you equate the arguments that are being accounted against bisexuals to the prejudice and discrimination that homosexuals endure daily from society, boggles the mind. You’re living in a fantasy world. SNAP OUT OF IT! It’s only in your little mind because they are not the same argument nor are they equal and ANYBODY that has ANY common sense whatsoever would know THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

Also, evidently you and others must care about my opinion on bi/gay relationships since you all seem to get up in arms and irate with me for saying the truth. You don’t like to hear the truth, do ya? Most gay men, who have brains and use them, don’t want to date bisexual men. Quit your whining and quit blaming others for bisexual men’s mistakes, and most importantly stop spreading your ugly ugly lies about homosexuality. We don’t want to read that crap.

Also, the scientific community and mental healthcare professionals ALL believe that sexual orientation is determined, get this now, don’t MISS IT, HERE it comes, BEFORE BIRTH! GET IT? DID YOU HEAR THAT? BEFORE BIRTH! That means there isn’t any skepticism with the scientific or the mental healthcare communities on this issue. In fact, some of them don't believe bisexuality even exist. Whether you choose to believe it or not I couldn’t care less. But there are other people in the world who actual are 100% heterosexual and 100% homosexual. We do exist! And the little flip flops in between; well you can figure it out. At least I hope you can. *crosses fingers*

 

[AmBi Dex]

Jesus... a gay preacher thundering from the pulpit. Telling me I need to confess sins which he sees in some divinely inspired, all caps vision! What the hell are you smoking!?

Of course, "atypical" must indicate a plot or agenda rather than..what accuracy?

My point is that many self styled gays - and maybe even a few of the few humans out there who can accurately report total attraction to other men (with corollary revulsion to the idea of sex with women) - engage in much of the same unthinking BS as that they whine about in their persecutors.... all when it comes to trying to deal with bisexuality. Funny thing is that I don't have to really argue with you, assuming that were possible - because you only demonstrate the very point.

And clearly, finer points and conceptual subtleties surrounding "by nature" and "by choice", alongside the whole framework where such things are assumed to be mutually exclusive - all that would appear to be over your head. Same thing with my other point - that the "by nature" routine is totally unnecessary as a mode of defence.

Consenting adults don't need to invoke that trick, don't need to base a defence of making love to whomever they want to - or marrying whomever regardless of sex - by walking out on such conceptual thin ice. They don't have to with respect to the US Constitution. They don't have to in a more abstract court of Reason either. Frankly, the whole strategy is just lame.

Also, evidently you and others must care about my opinion on bi/gay relationships since you all seem to get up in arms and irate with me for saying the truth.

Lol. Imagine a fundamentalist saying this! "I must be right because you sinners think I'm full of...."

 

[blueto21]

Contrary to your belief, I don’t smoke. Nor do I drink. You still some how (although I’m not surprised by it at all) seemed to miss my whole point entirely. Your mother must have dropped you quite a few times on your head as a baby. Even a fourth grader could’ve understood that. But yet, you still seemed to miss it all together. Your point is worthless and irrational. I have already explained to you FOUR times already why you’re argument is invalid. Comparing actual persecution circumstances vs. logical sound accurate advice about bisexual men and their relationship habits is just flat out stupid and it makes the mind REEL. I still don’t understand how you can correlate the two.

But, I digress. I don’t need to prove how wrong your point is for you. You’ve managed to do a wonderful job at that. Anyone that has half a brain could see how illogical your point is if (and that’s a BIG IF) in fact, you would even call it a point. It looks like a bunch of rubbish to me. And to your last response those asswipes (your word not mind’s) would say to your argument “well then why don’t gays just marry someone of the opposite sex.” That’s equal. After, all they’re not born that way so they can just easily choose to go straight and become happy functional heterosexuals.

I mean, after all the law doesn’t have regulations and restrictions on what consisting adults do in the privacy of their love lives. Consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want to do in respect to the U.S. Constitution as long as their male and female. (sarcasm) That’s some serious horse manure you’re putting out.

 

[blackbeltninja]

I’ll quote you again and DON’T MISS IT THIS TIME!

(Quote from AmbiDex) Even that "gay" people out there who want to stand up for an atypical sexuality, wanting others to recognize them as equal under the law (not as having "special rights") have an annoying tendency to turn around and deploy the same kind of politically correct unthink when it comes to something that might threaten the cheap and easy idea that their sexuality is completely determined by nature or something. (end quote)

Look up the term atypical since you clearly don’t understand what it means. I’m not going to do the work for you. You were clearly implying that homosexuality is abnormal and that homosexuals are seeking special rights. Your supposedly, emphasize on “special rights” was satirical and marred by your use of the term atypical when you describe homosexuality.

Blueto, you may not be drinking or smoking, as you say above. However, you are also very clearly not reading, or if you are reading, not understanding AT ALL.

You have unfortunately completely misinterpreted the quote from AmbiDex twice. At no stage has he gone back on what he said even slightly, I'm afraid. I've re-read the posts three times in a row to make sure, here, and I'm afraid you've gone off barking up the wrong tree.

-d-

 

[RRRalph]

What People Should Know About Bisexuals Is...

that dealing with it is more severe than being exclusively gay or exclusively hetero.

What's difficult about being exclusive hetero? I'm not exclusive gay, so i can't say too much about that.

 

[BlueStreaker]

I've only been able to read some of the posts on this thread - and they're great posts, most of them - but I'd still like to post my thoughts. I'll have to go back and really go through the rest of the thread, there's just so much to read! Anyway, I have stuff to say about straigth curious and bisexuals:

What people should know about curious straight guys is...
My understanding of curious straight, and what I felt I was before I discovered my bisexuality, is that a guy knows he's into girls but finds himself looking at guys... and not in the friendly way. He sometimes gets aroused by guys, but he doesn't see himself doing anything with them. He might even find himself looking at gay porn, or more at the cocks and bodies of hot guys in straight porn than the women, or at both equally. He could even go as far as to fantasize about a guy.

I felt that way, and it was some time after I started looking at gay porn before I realized that I wanted to do more than fantasize about doing things with guys. That was my transition from the straight curious phase to the bisexual phase.

What people should know about bisexuals is...
We are indeed capable of having real, strong, lasting relationships with a member of either sex, some of us are more likely to have those relationships with one sex than the other, but either is possible. Even if we are in a relationship with a person of one sex, we will still be attracted to people of the other sex, too. We won't necessarily go out and fool around, but we will get the urges and we will sometimes get aroused by the other sex.

Example 1: A bi guy is dating a woman. The relationship gets serious, they fall in love with each other and start having sex. The guy isn't just going to get over his attraction to guys, he's still going to look at them, maybe jerk off to guys in porn when he's not getting sex, but (if he's a decent guy) he won't go out looking for a guy to fool around with.

Example 2: A bi guy is dating a guy. Same situation, just with the other sex... relationship gets serious, fall in love, sex. The guy won't be magically not attracted to women, it will still be there, he just won't act on the impulses and go out to get frisky with a lady.

There is also a third scenario, the casual scenario. Also could be called the "friends with benefits" option.

Example 3: A bi guy isn't currently in a relationship, but he has both guy and girl friends that have fooled around with him before and are willing to do it again. Depending on his mood he will pick to go with either one of the guy friends or the girl friends. And just because he has sex with, say, a girl one night doesn't mean he won't go out the next night and have sex with a guy.

Note that this is for more centered guys, who are around 50/50 liking guys and girls. That brings up another point.

What people should know about bisexuals is...
Many of us are attracted more to one sex than the other, but we are still attracted to and will do things with both. It's not 50/50, just like straight guys aren't necessarily 100% attracted to just girls and gay guys aren't necessarily 100% attracted to just guys. The same could be said for women. It's also not a switch we can flip, to say "Oh, I'm on the gay side today." Our mood determines which sex we'd rather be with at any given time and there's nothing we can do to change our feelings at that moment.

Well, I hope this all makes sense. Just a window into my life as a guy who has finally opened up to his bisexuality.

 

[wilehart1978]

What people should know about bisexuals is...

The can have their cake and eat it too....Seriously, bisexuality is beautiful because you get to experience the beauty of a relationship between both a man and a man and man and woman. I still would love to have an experience that could include a man and woman simultaneously.

What people should know about curious straight guys is...I started out as a curious straight guy...In a way maybe still am? But what people should know about curious straight guys is that experimentation is normal and a healthy part of life. When straight women experiement with other women, it's acceptable. When straight men experiment, they are "fags" or weirdos. If a straight guy wants to try cock they should....An article in Details some years back outlined a straight guy who did experiment with another guy..He did it all, inclusing anal and decided gay sex was not for him..So it won't kill a straight guy to suck a dick if he wants.

For me, I thought about being with a guy for a few years before pulling the trigger...Once I did, it was one of the greatest experiences in my life to date....