What to do with illegal immigrant criminals in the U.S.?

[Kulindahr]

"Don’t ever use the term ‘illegal immigrant.’
And I said, ‘Why?’
And he said, ‘Because once you label a people ‘illegal,’ that is exactly what the Nazis did to Jews.’ You do not label a people ‘illegal.’ They have committed an illegal act.
They are immigrants who crossed illegally.
They are immigrants who crossed without papers.
They are immigrants who crossed without permission.
They are living in this country without permission.
But they are not an illegal people.”

Fallacious reasoning: the Jews were legally citizens, legal residents.

These are people who immigrated illegally. They are thus illegal immigrants.

 

[TX-Beau]

Re: The "NEW" conservative budget

In a libertarian society I would have no problem with privately-run prisons, because they would be inspected and evaluated by the police companies contracting with them...

Uh, yeah, this isn't "Libertarian" at all. It's big Government regulation and oversight.

 

[TX-Beau]

Fallacious reasoning: the Jews were legally citizens, legal residents.

These are people who immigrated illegally. They are thus illegal immigrants.

Every European who came here is an illegal immigrant and thus should go the fuck home.

 

[Benvolio]

"Don’t ever use the term ‘illegal immigrant.’
And I said, ‘Why?’
And he said, ‘Because once you label a people ‘illegal,’ that is exactly what the Nazis did to Jews.’ You do not label a people ‘illegal.’ They have committed an illegal act.
They are immigrants who crossed illegally.
They are immigrants who crossed without papers.
They are immigrants who crossed without permission.
They are living in this country without permission.
But they are not an illegal people.”

They are invaders, from whom the Constitution requires the Federal government to protect us.

 

[evelyn]

"Don’t ever use the term ‘illegal immigrant.’
And I said, ‘Why?’
And he said, ‘Because once you label a people ‘illegal,’ that is exactly what the Nazis did to Jews.’ You do not label a people ‘illegal.’ They have committed an illegal act.
They are immigrants who crossed illegally.
They are immigrants who crossed without papers.
They are immigrants who crossed without permission.
They are living in this country without permission.
But they are not an illegal people.”

Such politically correct nonsense curtails free speech. People have to be to express themselves openly and honestly, without worrying incessantly about using the wrong phrasing.

 

[Kabluey]

They are invaders, from whom the Constitution requires the Federal government to protect us.

They're not invaders, they're immigrants.
Your dictionary needs fixing.

 

[Kabluey]

Uh, yeah, this isn't "Libertarian" at all. It's big Government regulation and oversight.

Very true. Regulation is the antithesis of true libertarianism.
A true libertarian believes in global citizenship. Anything less is a compromise due to internal bias and fear.

 

[Kabluey]

Such politically correct nonsense curtails free speech. People have to be to express themselves openly and honestly, without worrying incessantly about using the wrong phrasing.
YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

Apparently you're a slut.

Or at least your status says so. Of course, you'll agree that words should not be censored for the sensitivities of the recipient...

 

[Stardreamer]

They're not invaders, they're immigrants.
Your dictionary needs fixing.

He wants to put that label on them to justify using military force against them.

 

[Kabluey]

He wants to put that label on them to justify using military force against them.

Similarly in pre WWII Germany, Jewish people were deemed non-citizens.
Instead they were made subjects of the state.

 

[Stardreamer]

Similarly in pre WWII Germany, Jewish people were deemed non-citizens.
Instead they were made subjects of the state.

I saw a woman being interviewed at the Republican Convention, middle-aged dressed in a gaudy western styled outfit made up of red, white and blue flag patterns, calmly telling the reporter that immigrants crossing the border illegally should be shot because they were invaders. If you are using that term it is because you want to justify that sort of action. And yes it is also the same justification to round them up into camps and ghettos while you work out a 'final solution'. The pattern we all know well from history.

 

[Benvolio]

I saw a woman being interviewed at the Republican Convention, middle-aged dressed in a gaudy western styled outfit made up of red, white and blue flag patterns, calmly telling the reporter that immigrants crossing the border illegally should be shot because they were invaders. If you are using that term it is because you want to justify that sort of action. And yes it is also the same justification to round them up into camps and ghettos while you work out a 'final solution'. The pattern we all know well from history.

Nonsense. The constitution uses the term invaders, and requires the federal government to protect us from them. It is you guys who are eager to kill the sub humans.

 

[gsdx]

They are invaders, from whom the Constitution requires the Federal government to protect us.

Do you consider this an invasion?

I do not see this happening at the borders. These are so-called 'civilised' Americans.

 

[Stardreamer]

Nonsense. The constitution uses the term invaders, and requires the federal government to protect us from them. It is you guys who are eager to kill the sub humans.

It does not define it though as unarmed civilians trying to enter the country seeking work or asylum. That is all on you Lad.

 

[Benvolio]

It does not define it though as unarmed civilians trying to enter the country seeking work or asylum. That is all on you Lad.

An entry without permission is an invasion. The reason for the invasion is irrelevant. It is no less an invasion because your stereotype is a fantasy that they are all nice people.

 

[kallipolis]

^Illegal entry is the standard terminology employed by immigration agencies around the world.

Illegal immigrants are predictably seeking work with a willingness to settle, and live a peaceful life in their newly adopted country.

Invasion infers armed people pursuing an agenda that does not include finding employment, and settlement into a regular life.

 

[Stardreamer]

An entry without permission is an invasion. The reason for the invasion is irrelevant. It is no less an invasion because your stereotype is a fantasy that they are all nice people.

If you are going to define my stereotypes get them right "they are all people."

 

[Benvolio]

^Illegal entry is the standard terminology employed by immigration agencies around the world.

Illegal immigrants are predictably seeking work with a willingness to settle, and live a peaceful life in their newly adopted country.

Invasion infers armed people pursuing an agenda that does not include finding employment, and settlement into a regular life.

That is your definition of invasion, but not binding an Americans.

Nevertheless, some come to commit crimes, including distributing drugs for the Latino American cartels, and other crimes. Some come for and do recieved welfare and medical treatment. Immigration legal and illegal makes all our problems worse.

 

[evelyn]

Very well argued Benvolio.

 

[opinterph]

The constitution uses the term invaders, …

Where does that term appear in the Constitution?