Why are so many dumb fucks so willing to bareback?

[Ninja108]

Personally, anyone who WANTS to get infected is a sick fuck who is beyond help. But that's my option.

 

[wastingmymind]

Stop going on craigslist Sultan.

I was gonna type that looking for sex in Craigslist is like looking for an Edith Wharton character in a crack house. Then I realised that I'm pretty sure I've said something like this before.

Which made me realize, and I'm not yelling at you, but I'VE SEEN A THREAD LIKE THIS BEFORE AND I WILL SEE ANOTHER THREAD LIKE THIS AGAIN EVEN IF I DON'T WANT TO!

 

[Joshua_me]

I was gonna type that looking for sex in Craigslist is like looking for an Edith Wharton character in a crack house.

That's a fascinating simile.

 

[Willie Boy]

There is nothing wrong with barebacking. My partner doesn't like me to wear a condom. Of course we've been together for about 4 years now and are both clean and healthy.

The problem is in these casual hookups with strangers. In not knowing what (if any) "issues" your fuckbuddy for the evening may have. That is where the true idiocy is.

 

[Willie Boy]

Why are so many dumb fucks so willing to bareback?

I think the most common answer would be that they don't like the feel of condoms. Retarded, but true.

Did you not read the post I made just before yours?

There is nothing wrong with barebacking. My partner doesn't like me to wear a condom. Of course we've been together for about 4 years now and are both clean and healthy.

The problem is in these casual hookups with strangers. In not knowing what (if any) "issues" your fuckbuddy for the evening may have. That is where the true idiocy is.

 

[Red Storm]

There are also "breeding predators" who try to convince a guy to bareback or will pull off the condom during sex with the partner isn't looking or doesn't notice and 'breed' the guy into being HIV+

SICK. FUCKS.

I may have missed this but do some guys actually do that? seriously?

I knwo some poz men say they are positive so you know their status but infecting someone? wtf?

 

[Red Storm]

Personally, anyone who WANTS to get infected is a sick fuck who is beyond help. But that's my option.

I was curious and asked 3 guys who advertised for bareback sex, 1 was poz, the other 2 were not.

The 2 that were not told me the same thing

" To get it over with"

 

[Rex]

Let's not forget that 95% of Sultan's threads are really just there so he can trash-talk the gay community. All his ranting boils down to "gay people are all perverts, shallow, effeminate, promiscuous freaks" and straight people get a pass for being the same.

Sultan has admitted that many of his anti-gay threads come from a place of insecurity with his sexual orientation. He's not a bad guy... he's had an upbringing that's fucked his head up a bit. At least he's aware of it and we sometimes need to call him out because I really don't think he's aware that he's doing it.


Straight people have unsafe sex all the time. But he gives them a pass... gay people have unsafe sex (and are very aware of what they're doing if they're advertising looking for it) and he rains all over them.

So... Sultan.. dial it back a bit. We don't tell YOU how to have sex, you should not tell other people what is and is not acceptable to do while naked.

Just for the record I think straight people who get knocked up and have so many unwanted kids are dumb twats as well. I DO however think gay men are more promiscious than most hetero sex partners from what I've seen. I may be wrong about that but this was never meant to be a gay vs. straight thing.

 

[TomahawkEagle]

Its porn producers fault !!!
I can't see desert people licking ass.

Surely people who view porn would know that they are just fantasies and not real. The practices in movies should not be done in real life.

 

[freefall]

There are actually many reasons for these and sadly, most are caused by the unawareness of safe sex resulting from limited sex education. People tend to get more restricted to information which is important for them thanks to over-forbidding religions, which sees sexual educations and contraception as one way to legalise free sex to young generations. And also from the popular myth that condoms (and other barrier contraception method---for str8 guys) reduce the sensation during sex, thus tricking people to assume that bare sex is more satistying.

But the grossest part which applies to majority of the population is that the more adult people be, the more brainless they become. The word 'free' infuses (mostly) everyone into pleasure-seeking beasts, who will do anything for fun, including ignoring safety and hazardous risks.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I DO however think gay men are more promiscious than most hetero sex partners from what I've seen. I may be wrong about that but this was never meant to be a gay vs. straight thing.

Had it occurred to you that maybe gay men are more open about their sexual escapades because it's all men and no women in the mix?

You might not think this is a "gay v straight" thing but there's a recurring theme in a lot of your posts where you rain down on gay men for being one of many gay stereotypes.

I haven't seen you make any angry posts about straight people who do stupid things.

 

[AllMan]

I was curious and asked 3 guys who advertised for bareback sex, 1 was poz, the other 2 were not.

The 2 that were not told me the same thing

" To get it over with"

Yikes----I did the same experiment as you and I received the same response. I think the HIV meds have glorified barebacking as well, which is sad but true. These young guys (and alot of older guys too) are seeing people live 20 and 30 years with HIV/AIDS, so they feel "hey, if I get it---it'll just be like diabetes or something, all I gotta do is take my meds and I'll be fine."

I think that plays a big part in it too...the fact that alot of HIV+ guys go around bragging about their "victory" in "beating" the disease for 20 years, etc. So HIV- guys who once were overly condom-obsessive, are now able and willing to have unsafe sex because they feel that HIV is "not that bad anymore" like it used to be in the 80's and 90's.

 

[ViennaExpat83]

I found this new article on gay men's attitudes to HIV and barebacking interesting. It also lays a lot of blame at the foot of the agencies and institutions supposed to be working for HIV prevention.

 

[Sam Blum]

It's ridiculous and arrogant to presume to know how or why another person, let alone many people operate/function. One has no knowledge of the individuals. That said, I've had 'unprotected' (the term in itself is fraught) sex with boyfriends and the reason has been that it is (for me) more intimate psychologically than using a condom. That so many of us feel disenfranchised and marginalised may offer you the reason that men need to connect as best they can, physically and emotionally. There is a real difference in the emaotional satisfaction that one takes from sex if it doesn't inlcude separation by latex, no matter how dangerous or ignorant that may appear to you. As for disclosure: not everyone has to disclose their health status to you and the world. And if their partners ask prior to sex for everything they need to know, perhaps you will find that they will gleen the info they require if they listen and watch, just like all adults.

 

[sexsomniac]

Just for the record I think straight people who get knocked up and have so many unwanted kids are dumb twats as well. I DO however think gay men are more promiscious than most hetero sex partners from what I've seen. I may be wrong about that but this was never meant to be a gay vs. straight thing.

I think it's because sex is more readily available for gay man than hetro counterpart. Mainly because of values that society impose on women. They don't easily cave in to their desire as much as gay man does due to that. When gay man has multiple sex partners, they don't get labeled as slut but, for a woman, that's different story.

 

[AllMan]

I think many people with partners suddenly feel this sense of security that is a little worrying from an outsider's that is a little disturbing.

I'm not criticizing anyone who has bareback sex in a monogamous relationship, but in my humble opinion, 3 months is a little soon to put my life in someone's hands.
And that's what bareback sex is.. you are putting your life in their hands.

While I am not an advocate for those who go around intentionally trying to pass the bug or get the bug, I also don't go around pointing my finger at everyone who does bareback for other reasons---because they are grown people who are capable of making their own decisions and living with the consequences.

I think it is a psychological thing......in the "gay world", the self-righteous non-barebackers scream "ew, you put your life in someone's hands" or "backing is tacky and dirty and reckless"....

.....but in the "straight world", barebacking (in the sense of HIV/STDs) isn't even the issue----it's "omg she is a slut for getting pregnant so young" or "damn, did you hear about Betty...she is having her FIFTH baby!"

In both scenarios, the people are BAREBACKING (whether you wanna accept reality and call it that or not).....but the perceptions are totally different [and unfair]. If a gay couple has been partnered for 1 year and have bareback sex, they are condemned as "helping spread HIV" or "unintelligent" or "reckless" or "idiotic" or "nasty"----but if a straight couple that's married or even un-married (have bareback sex and) welcomes a baby, then everyone says "aaaw that is so sweet" or "what a great gift from God" or "I am so happy for the new expecting couple" or "I'm gonna be an auntie!", etc etc

So you gays are always crying for equality and non-discrimination, and for straight people to be open-minded and end their negative stereotypes about gays....yet you keep your minds closed within your own sexual group. You help feed the negative stereotypes that all gay people bareback. If you would stop glorifying bareback like you do, then maybe people would stop making fetishes about it, and straight people would slowly stop thinking that all gay people are nasty disease-spreading promiscuous animals!

The truth is, straight people "bareback" just as much (if not more than) gay/bisexual people.....Biology 101----the sperm enters the vagina and fertilizes the egg! Surely you don't believe all women are still "Virgin Mary's" do you?

Let people live their own sexual lives and stop judging something just because you don't like it----and yet you expect other people to accept your actions/sexuality even if they don't like it! Gay people nit-pick every single little thing....good grief, complain about this--complain about that.

Hypocracy 101. Think people, think!

 

[CorporalAris]

I'm not criticizing anyone who has bareback sex in a monogamous relationship, but in my humble opinion, 3 months is a little soon to put my life in someone's hands.
And that's what bareback sex is.. you are putting your life in their hands.

Three months is the time it takes HIV to show up, right? So assuming they ARE monogamous, that is fine.

 

[CorporalAris]

Yes, but that's a huge assumption.. especially for a life-THREATENING disease. In 3 months, do you really know your partner completely? Are you willing to entrust this person with your life?

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone.. I just think that still counts as somewhat risky behavior.

No, I understand, and it obviously needs to based on a per-couple basis.

 

[AllMan]

Seriously? It's not the same... we're not condemning people who bareback b/c we don't like it.. I'm against barebacking b/c I have 2 friends who were recently diagnosed and it sucks.

That's the same thing....

One person barebacking doesnt just affect one person.. it affects other people as well b/c the disease spreads.

The disease doesn't spread by itself. If you (sidenote: when I say YOU, I refer to the population) don't want it, then either use a condom or become celibate. If you "used a condom everytime" like you claim...then you have nothing to worry about, now do you?

The other had someone slip his dick inside him without his approval... and that one occasion gave him HIV.

So, in other words...he was raped?? Because dicks just don't accidentally slide inside someone and keep pumping until they ejaculate inside the orafice, if the receptive individual didn't really want it AND there must be more to the story to not call it rape.

Do you know anyone with the disease? B/c that probably gives you a whole new perspective on things.

Yea I actually do....I know a good acquaintant with it, and two best friends (one died from it sadly) and the other caught it from being promiscuous after I lovingly advised him not to be. My ex also caught it from his ex-bf, after we broke up a few years ago.

I treat them the same as I would treat anyone else, and I love them the way I always had, when they were HIV-.....but I don't feel sorry for them, because they know that everyone has consequences for their actions. If a skater-dude breaks his leg in 6 places (or kills himself) after jumping from a 8-foot ledge, then I would treat him the same way. Barebacking and doing dangerous stunts both put your life at risk---some are lucky, others aren't.....as the saying goes "all it takes is one time." I don't necessarily approve of their risky behavior but I dont condemn them either!

 

[AllMan]

To my mind, deciding not to use condoms is like a wealthy groom deciding not to have a prenuptial agreement. Nobody wants to accept the idea that their partnership might face challenges at some point. But the odds are good (bad?) that your marriage will fail, and that your partner may cheat. Why take such a huge risk with your health?

Ok, ok, ok, ok----I think we get it dude----you are a self-righteous "condom thumper" that will always point the finger at someone's personal sexual behavior.

You are also a world-class doctor that has led many research endeavors with the CDC.

So go ahead and use all the condoms you want in your personal life, never trust any of your partners (even if they are your first and only sexual partner)....use condoms every single time you have sex for the rest of your life. We are letting you live your life, no one is telling you what to do in the bedroom. Now let others live theirs, whether it be be "reckless" or righteously "in accordance to 'Unclean's Standards 2.2.10' of the JUB Sex Handbook"