Climate Science biting liberals in the ass again.

[Kulindahr]

In Ben's world, brown mud people materialize from nothing the moment they enter the country. They don't exist before that.

Actually bringing millions and millions of people here would be a benefit to emissions, because ALL of the places those brown people come from have far worse emissions standards.

 

[Kulindahr]

Republicans of course want everyone to get a living wage.

Then why aren't Walmart and all the other Republican-controlled megacorporations paying $18.50 per hour?

You love jumping back to the sixties when US corporations dominated the world, but you're very selective. In that time period tax rates were far, far higher than now and the minimum wage was far, far higher -- why is it you only want to go back to conditions that benefit the wealthy few instead of ALL the conditions that prevailed then?

 

[Kulindahr]

Newsflash Ben, asking employers 'nicely' to pay a living wage voluntarily has never worked, and will never happen. Ever.

Know what MADE that happen in the past? Unions. So now you support unions.

Actually it happened once. Remember Henry Ford? He tried to show everyone how to do capitalism, but today's corporations would rather do rape capitalism than benevolent capitalism.

 

[Kulindahr]

Perhaps the sheer amount of people who are getting degrees these days is another factor.

Yes. People tried to warn Clinton about that when he proposed his "everyone should go to college" daydream, a program that has stripped away millions of high-paying American jobs because people stopped going to trade schools -- about which he was also warned.

 

[Kulindahr]

Meanwhile in reality

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/nov/17/university-lecturers-uk-us-casual-posts-food-stamps

Coaching salaries at universities should be maxed at the income of the lowest paid professor, if the university gets federal money.

And all sports should be funded by donations and endowment, not by ANY student fees.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Coaching salaries at universities should be maxed at the income of the lowest paid professor, if the university gets federal money.

And all sports should be funded by donations and endowment, not by ANY student fees.

Couldn't agree more.

The unanimous mood on campus and in the student publications was outrage that several entire fields were being cut the same year the football budget had increased.

 

[Benvolio]

American workers are going to compete against workers from China and India regardless of where those workers from the latter pair live. It's because we're on the same globe.

Now, why did American manufacturing dominate the world? The reason is in your first clause: war. Nobody else HAD any manufacturing to speak of!


Hey! Maybe that's why the GOP loves starting overseas wars -- they're hoping to trigger a world war and destroy everyone else's manufacturing so the US can dominate again!

No, the US participation in the following wars was started by the dems: 1812, mexican, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Kosovo, ISIS and some I forgot.

 

[kallipolis]

No, the US participation in the following wars was started by the dems: 1812, mexican, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Kosovo, ISIS and some I forgot.

You really should invest in reading a serious history book.

As one example, I am certain that FDR, and his Democrat hordes of savage warriors did not participate in the attack on Pearl Harbor.

 

[Kabluey]

No, the US participation in the following wars was started by the dems: 1812, mexican, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Kosovo, ISIS and some I forgot.

Here he conveniently overlooks the fact the poster didn't lay any blame on democrats or republicans for entering wars.

There's no question though that the latest Afghanistan and Iraq wars have proven expensive.
As per climate science, the Bush administration chose to ignore international conventions without any way of addressing the potentially negative consequences of their actions.

 

[Benvolio]

You really should invest in reading a serious history book.

As one example, I am certain that FDR, and his Democrat hordes of savage warriors did not participate in the attack on Pearl Harbor.

He was aware that the oil embargo might provoke Japanese aggression. And he wanted to enter the European war to assist Britain. Thus he was at least negligent in failing to guard tge Pacific Fleet. But mostly I get tired of you democrats picturing Republicans as the war party, as you did, when, in fact the opposite is true.

 

[xbuzzerx]

He was aware that the oil embargo might provoke Japanese aggression. And he wanted to enter the European war to assist Britain. Thus he was at least negligent in failing to guard tge Pacific Fleet. But mostly I get tired of you democrats picturing Republicans as the war party, as you did, when, in fact the opposite is true.

Considering how many rich whites including the Bushes had invested financially in the Nazi regime, I can see how they might have had mixed feelings about where their loyalties are.

Kinda like they still do today when it comes to the Saudis.

 

[jbrown329]

Gosh.

I guess that's the point of climate denial. People who don't want to hear want they disagree with eventually turn off when the rest of society disagrees with them.

I guess that's obtuse ignorance in action.

IOW...........

 

[jbrown329]

I find most of JUBBERs to be an intelligent lot. Soon Ben will have no one to talk to because he'll have everyone on ignore. It must be sad to be alone and ignorant.

"All by myself............"

 

[Benvolio]

The ones I have on ignore are the ones who are excessively rude, and as you know I have a high tolerance for rudeness. There is no point in talking to those who make personal comments rather that discussing the issues.

 

[Kabluey]

The ones I have on ignore are the ones who are excessively rude, and as you know I have a high tolerance for rudeness. There is no point in talking to those who make personal comments rather that discussing the issues.

Says the guy who's constantly accusing people of being liers.
You lie! Etc.

That's the problem with climate change denialism, the practitioners eventually resort to claiming personal slights when others continually refute their position.

That way they can be offended as reason enough to not do anything.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Says the guy who's constantly accusing people of being liers.
You lie! Etc.

That's the problem with climate change denialism, the practitioners eventually resort to claiming personal slights when others continually refute their position.

That way they can be offended as reason enough to not do anything.

He's going to make his own personal Fox News pulpit here in CE&P, where he spouts "the truth" and no dissenting viewpoints or even cross-examination is allowed.

Of course, that's the only way right wing ideologue viewpoints stand up to any scrutiny. By not having any.

 

[thewiz]

The ones I have on ignore are the ones who are excessively rude, and as you know I have a high tolerance for rudeness. There is no point in talking to those who make personal comments rather that discussing the issues.

So when do you put yourself on ignore? Most of us already have.

 

[Kulindahr]

So IF the solar down-cycle coming up was actually behind the Little Ice Age rather than the volcanic eruptions that have been implicated, we MIGHT get a little help fixing what we've done to the planet. Since we may have already passed the tipping point, what that OUGHT to do is encourage us to work even harder at stopping carbon emissions because we might have a shot at getting it right.

It should certainly NOT give us an excuse to slack off.

 

[frankfrank]

^ Even if the old model of global COOLING was correct (which is the model that prevailed in the 1970's when awareness was more in its infancy), there would still be a good reason to try to limit these emissions globally.

Global cooling would be as catastrophic as global warming.

 

[Benvolio]

^ Even if the old model of global COOLING was correct (which is the model that prevailed in the 1970's when awareness was more in its infancy), there would still be a good reason to try to limit these emissions globally.

Global cooling would be as catastrophic as global warming.

Do emissions cause warming or cooling? Surely not both.