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Do You Believe In Smacking Children ?

jbrown329 said:
Yeah right. 90% of the time the fucking parents made it through the door and let their 'darlings' run wild. 3 damn buildings at the fairgrounds with 300+ vendors. The 'responsible' parents had no fucking clue as to where or what their children were doing. So you tell me what the fuck was I supposed to do when a spoiled 7yr old ran up to the booth, grabbed a candle and threw it back on the shelf? If I could've gotten away with it, I'd have turned that little snot over my knee and tanned his ass but good.
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And you want these already poor excuses for parents meting out punishment on these kids? That would definitely be a worst case scenario. For too long parents have either taken the discipline/punishment issue too far to one side or the other (either too much or not enough), there is no quick fix. The parents first need to be taught simple common sense..... Then they need to be taught how to be parents..... in 50 to 75 years they may be ready to begin being proper parents...... In the meantime you need to talk with the venue and have them increase/start security patrols. They should also have standing guards. If kids are observed being rowdy they should be corralled before they can cause damage, the parents should be found and warned that if they don't control their children they will be removed from the premises and be held responsible for any damages.... Or maybe a play area could be set up for the kids while the parents shop. If the venue isn't interested in implementing any changes then maybe the vendors should take it upon themselves to find other locations to do business. If you want things to improve then you have to take steps toward that improvement, you can't just wait and expect others to do it..... It'll never get done.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
As for Ferguson, I took Shadowcat's comment to be that a street kid who's parents didn't even make him come home at night when we was in the third or fourth grade, surely were a factor when he turns in to a grown man and steals cigars and in turn literally reaches in to a squad car to grab a weapon in a fight with a cop. The ship in turned in degree. It was pretty obvious that the criminal grew a disregard for authority in steps, and it ultimately was a direct factor in getting him killed. But, Shadowcat can explain for himself.
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No I don't need to explain you summed it up perfectly; you got exactly what I meant, thank you.
 
Soilwork said:
Well of course, but that's so you don't see them getting fucked while
You're reading JUB for the articles, right?
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Yeah, because it is always okay to see someone else's kids getting railed while you are shooting jizz all over your computer screen but your own kids should be hit if they decide as adults that having sex for entertainment is what they want to do. I guess that somehow it must reflect on their own failure as a parent.
 
It depends. If it is to stop them from doing something dangerous and doesn't happen often then yes But if it happens all the time and the child is terrified of the hitter then I say no. But I fully support smack idiots and scum bags all you want because they deserve to be smacked senseless!
 
rareboy said:
Yeah, because it is always okay to see someone else's kids getting railed while you are shooting jizz all over your computer screen but your own kids should be hit if they decide as adults that having sex for entertainment is what they want to do. I guess that somehow it must reflect on their own failure as a parent.
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I always have a chuckle at people who try to win an argument with me by saying "oh yeah? Well... YOU MAKE PORN".... while posting on an actual Porn site.
 
Soilwork said:
I always have a chuckle at people who try to win an argument with me by saying "oh yeah? Well... YOU MAKE PORN".... while posting on an actual Porn site.
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I think that you can always gauge the level of objectification of the person who makes the comment.

Some people look at all porn actors as meat. Some people see them as real people with character and watchable characteristics who are brave and bold enough to do something they love on camera in order to allow others to share the thrill of the moment and to fantasize about the pleasure. While I don't fantasize about porn actors as lovers or best friends...I don't see them as degrading and debasing themselves to satisfy my nasty and guilty desires either.

But we digress from whupping the young'uns.
 
Willie Boy said:
And you want these already poor excuses for parents meting out punishment on these kids? That would definitely be a worst case scenario. For too long parents have either taken the discipline/punishment issue too far to one side or the other (either too much or not enough), there is no quick fix. The parents first need to be taught simple common sense..... Then they need to be taught how to be parents..... in 50 to 75 years they may be ready to begin being proper parents...... In the meantime you need to talk with the venue and have them increase/start security patrols. They should also have standing guards. If kids are observed being rowdy they should be corralled before they can cause damage, the parents should be found and warned that if they don't control their children they will be removed from the premises and be held responsible for any damages.... Or maybe a play area could be set up for the kids while the parents shop. If the venue isn't interested in implementing any changes then maybe the vendors should take it upon themselves to find other locations to do business. If you want things to improve then you have to take steps toward that improvement, you can't just wait and expect others to do it..... It'll never get done.
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I can tell that you've never been to a craft show. And I can tell that you don't even understand how they work. You sound like the woman that stopped at the booth one day and said, "gee, I wish I could just set up and sell stuff like you do".

What people never realize is the time spent finding supplies, making orders and then making raw product to make finished product (untold hours per week). Then there's the set up before the show and tear down after the show.

And it wasn't a hobby, it was how we lived. So how would you feel if someone's spoiled brat came into your business and destroyed what you had for sale? And because the 'worth' wasn't major bucks, the cops would not show up. And you can't say a damn thing because you might offend 50 other people that are near by. Therefore losing potential customers.

Find another venue. I guess that you REALLY don't understand how they work. The only place to put on a show that size is the fairgrounds. The promoter is the one that secures the place for the show. The promoter is the one that pays for the cost upfront. Then the promoter charges those that wish to set up. And it was (and still is) the biggest craft show in this area. That show draws thousands. And it was a big part of our yearly income.
 
I don't think it is proper to slap a kid across the face; however, a good smack across the ass will re-align their attitude very quickly. Then for sever cases, a good ass whipping will change their whole world for the better. It worked for me!
 
mbamike said:
I don't think it is proper to slap a kid across the face; however, a good smack across the ass will re-align their attitude very quickly. Then for sever cases, a good ass whipping will change their whole world for the better. It worked for me!
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The problem I have is that parents/guardians/staff members often times do it for their display of anger rather than to correct a child.
Most often violence escalates, a child builds a higher pain threshold and the parent has to hit "just a little harder" to get through.

Most fathers that hit a son quit hitting their sons when they hit a certain age, perhaps it's because the boy is now nearly a man and might defend himself.

I remember a staff member at a boy's school who wanted to "teach me a lesson", he slapped me across my face and head more times than I could count, this didn't work, then it was time to get the strap out. 5 smack on each hand and I just stared at the sob, he wanted me to cry. It didn't work, I was used to pain. My dad had beat me with a belt when I was 5 or 6, my "uncle" had scalded me with hot water, my mother threatened to cut my dick off, I was used to having 4 or 5 boys beat the shit out of me in public school, I didn't cry for the asshole, a person gets used to being hurt.

Why train a child to endure pain?
 
The Only thing that can stop a bad child with an attitude is a good adult with a stun gun.
 
My policy is similar to Donald Trump- so yes.
 
I don't mean to sound edgy, but I keep hearing arguments against corporal punishment because it sometimes escalates to abuse. And I have certainly seen plenty of it in the manner Peeonme described. But that doesn't make it always abuse.

Just like slapping a kid. That's almost ALWAYS a no-no as it is almost always reactionary angry strike, unlike many spankings. But, even then, there are certainly times when a slap might be the appropriate arrest for a full-blown tantrum or fit, when the child may literally need to be snapped back to reality. Even then, I'm not wholly comfortable with. On the other hand, I hear lots of "I would never" from men here who have never raised a kid, day-in and day-out. Absolutes sound a lot better when it's all hypothetical.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
I don't mean to sound edgy, but I keep hearing arguments against corporal punishment because it sometimes escalates to abuse. And I have certainly seen plenty of it in the manner Peeonme described. But that doesn't make it always abuse.

Just like slapping a kid. That's almost ALWAYS a no-no as it is almost always reactionary angry strike, unlike many spankings. But, even then, there are certainly times when a slap might be the appropriate arrest for a full-blown tantrum or fit, when the child may literally need to be snapped back to reality. Even then, I'm not wholly comfortable with. On the other hand, I hear lots of "I would never" from men here who have never raised a kid, day-in and day-out. Absolutes sound a lot better when it's all hypothetical.
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The irony of the situation is that in a home where corporal punishment was not used in an abusive nature, the parents would probably have skills in parenting that would make any physical contact unnecessary.
 
Concerning unruly children...

I would rather spank their parents.......

Well..the dad anyway....naked and bent over my knee..|....

Someone else can spank the mom...
 
peeonme said:
The irony of the situation is that in a home where corporal punishment was not used in an abusive nature, the parents would probably have skills in parenting that would make any physical contact unnecessary.
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That's been my experience, barring a notable het couple who said all the right things but failed to actually deliver any sort of punishment. Really Good raising takes people who're used to handling children and also teaching the little sociopathic buggers that they also have boundaries - as does everyone else.
 
luckynumbah7 said:
That's been my experience, barring a notable het couple who said all the right things but failed to actually deliver any sort of punishment. Really Good raising takes people who're used to handling children and also teaching the little sociopathic buggers that they also have boundaries - as does everyone else.
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And the majority of kids today don't know the meaning of no. My dogs/cats were better behaved than children today. A rolled up (rolled flat so it makes a pop sound) newspaper works good for the dog. A spray bottle of water works good for the cats.
 
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