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Gay men: what is your religion?

This is what happens when you don't think for yourself.

When I tried to kill myself, my first and only thought was of my mother - you know, someone that actually exists.

Try again kid.

Hmmm ...

Tried the suicide thing myself many, many, years ago. Thank "Goodness" that it didn't work! So many wonderful things have happened since! ..|


And, have even had current thoughts of "leaving the planet", more for practical than emotional reasons. However, have decided to stick around just for the sake of seeing "what comes next"! :badgrin: (!)

I mean ... Hey! ... If it's gonna happen anyway, our dying/leaving, why rush the result? :-<

WE are all Who, and What, WE are! As 'someone' said, "We are all Spiritual Beings enjoying a TEMPORARY Physical Existence." SO ... Why not hang in there for the rest of the Ride? Just to see what happens? :goodevil: (group)

All the more reasons to ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!! :kiss:(*8*)
Chaz :luv:
 
So you have no clue about dirty bellybuttons, "poo cavities", nor what Taoist believe, but you have the balls to say I'm not a Taoist?

Go fuck yourself, sir.

What a stupid/idiot/arrogant/bitchy bitch reply.
A Taoist maybe worship of ancestors.
 
What a stupid/idiot/arrogant/bitchy bitch reply.
A Taoist maybe worship of ancestors.

Like you telling him that he wasn't a Taoist wasn't stupid, idiotic, arrogant, and bitchy?

Either you can take the heat of your actions or you can keep your mouth closed.
 
I worship the one true lord and savior, the messiah Beysus Christ

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That's a whole different scenario.
This is what happens when you don't read carefully.

To me, religion isn't only about God and angels and bibles - it's also (or maybe even more) about people, about us.
Also about some sort of humility, despite being the end of the food chain.
For example, whenever I enter a church it makes me feel just a little bit smaller.
I really think it helps people to find a certain balance in life.


The problem is you and many others seem to imply that those who hold to no particular notion of God cannot and do not experience this, when all one has to do is look up at the night sky or observe dawn breaking over mountains; experience the thrill of artistic inspiration to do so. The experience of the numinous, the humbling, the awe inspiring is in no way the pre-requisitie or the exclusive preserve of the religious or otherwise theistic. All too often, those who do hold to a notion of God will talk of humility and humbleness with one breath whilst presuming to tell us what God thinks and demands with another, or evidence incredible pride in the fact that their God, interestingly enough, hates everything they hatde and loves everything they love. There are more ascended, enlightened and complex notions of god and general divinity out there, those I've encountered more often than not held by those who have entirely thrown aside proscription and presumption; tradition and mythology, in favour of finding or formulating their own based on experience and consideration.
 
That's a whole different scenario.
This is what happens when you don't read carefully.

The scenario was, when in a dangerous situation when the person may or may not survive, what would an agnostic person do, and you said they'd call on a "god". Suicide is such a situation.

Death is not a differential. So already, you're losing.

To me, religion isn't only about God and angels and bibles - it's also (or maybe even more) about people, about us.
Also about some sort of humility, despite being the end of the food chain.
For example, whenever I enter a church it makes me feel just a little bit smaller.
I really think it helps people to find a certain balance in life.

And I don't need such a "god" or a parameter shared by people to find balance.

I shouldn't have given you a license to try. That was my mistake.
 
Picture it:
An agnostic person is in a very dangerous situation, he/she may not survive it.
What do you think he/she will say?

"Please God, don't let me die".

That's nothing but a blind assumption based on your faith and prejudices. Do not project that onto others and expect them to blindly agree. [-X
 
I don't really know what I am right now. I was brought up in a spiritual setting. My mom was brought up Catholic and hated it (sorry to the Catholics out there :)) but she still very much believes in God. I'd like to believe God is out there... I guess we will all know someday.

And seriously you guys, there is no need for bitching at each other. Stop telling each other what's right and wrong. Can we all just agree that we have different beliefs and leave it at that? No need to start arguments...
 
The short answer: I can't put it any better than it's already been put...

"I'm a baby killing - immoral - church burning - communist - hardcore atheist." Thank you, Seghers.

The long answer:
I was raised in a devout, Lutheran home (my father taught Sunday school, I trained to play the organ in services). I moved out of Lutheranism when I came out to myself and began attending a very liberal UCC church. Eventually, I moved out of that and accepted my strong atheism.

Practically speaking, I believe there is no god (as certainly as I believe there are no unicorns).

Strictly speaking, I reject all of the claims I have encountered so far that argue for the existence of a god. There is no convincing evidence for the existence of god (in the same way that there is no convincing evidence for the existence of unicorns or the Loch Ness Monster [although claims about the latter may be more reasonable than claims about the Christian god]).

I think that religion is, broadly, harmful and allows people the abrogation of their own personal responsibility. While I have many friends and family members who believe in the existence of such beings, I can't really take them seriously when it comes to their ability to reason, question, think critically - and ultimately to be consistent in their beliefs and actions.
 
Like you telling him that he wasn't a Taoist wasn't stupid, idiotic, arrogant, and bitchy?

Either you can take the heat of your actions or you can keep your mouth closed.

You missed the interaction history.
 
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While I have many friends and family members who believe in the existence of such beings, I can't really take them seriously when it comes to their ability to reason, question, think critically
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I consider myself a humanist and agnostic. I was Protestant. I joined the Unitarian Church because it does not require a creed or belief in the supernatural, but it gives one a community of like-minded people. It is not homophobic. Here is what you subscribe to:

THE PRINCIPLES OF THE UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST ASSOCIATION. We covenant to affirm and promote:

* The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
* Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
* Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
* A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
* The right of conscience and the use of the democratic procees within our congregations and in society at large;
* The goal of world community with peace, liberty and justice for all.
* Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
 
I am a Hindu, but I am more spiritual than overly devout.

One of the nice things about Hinduism is that it is not closed-minded to other religions; Hindus will not tell you to convert or be "damned to hell." Most Hindus believe that there is more than one path to God.

Hindus believe in an infinite number of gods, so a belief in multiple paths is a foregone conclusion.


I tend to disagree with you? I tend to think that using the term 'Free-thinker' for non-religious people / atheïsts / agnosts etc. implies that religious people must be called 'not a free-thinker' (or something like that).

Good point.

On the other hand, I like some of the habits of the muslim religion:
(1) dogs are 'haram' (meaning dirty / filthy animals and no way people can have a dog as a pet)

That's one of the stupider things Muslims believe. If God made dogs, and made them friendly, how can they be dirty/filthy?

Personally, I think Mohammed was a dunce who didn't know the difference between jackals and dogs.
 
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