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Heroes - The Return Thread

Yea tonight was just ok for me too, although it kinda seemed like nothing really happened today.

"You know Mohinder i don't have to use my super hearing to hear you dialing 911" i would have made Sylar say that.

They tried to make Sylar into a human but that didn't last long. And we got some back story into how he became president.

Claire and her dad :)

I didn't know Candice can alter reality as well, i thought she was just a morpher. Interesting power.

Nathan confuses me. Why was he talking to the company boss?
 
Not the greatest but still enjoyable, also earlier it had been shown that Candace is an illusion caster and not a shape shifter. I'm not quite sure about the Sylar storyline this ep. We saw that he thinks he's taking gifts away from those who didn't deserve them, but didn't want to hurt innocent people. Then he completely lost it after killing his mom,ok.
 
Agreed. Tonight was meh. But out of 21 episodes, I've only felt that way about 3 of them, so that's pretty good (you hear that LOST?)

Jessica didn't seem to concerned that Micah was missing, which goes directly against theories that Jessica only came out around Niki earlier because Micah was in danger. He's definitely in danger now and the only way she can be bothered to help is through Niki begging and D.L. dragging her ass through walls (loved his line there, btw)

Transformabitch continues to live up to her name.

Stupid Lost.

Anywho, Jessica isn't concerned about Micah because it's not her? In the last episode when transformabitch said "Nice car" and Jessica/Nikki had no idea what she was talking about. Or is that what you are referring to?

Oh, and like I said, stupid transformabitch can eat me. What CAN'T she do is what I'd like to know.
 
I have to say, I liked this one better than Five Years Gone.

Was anyone else laughing like hell when Sylar's mother talked about how green Oregon was?

(For those who don't get the joke, Ellen Greene played Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors, singing a major song called "Somewhere That's Green.")

But, back to the episode. It was interesting to see Sylar interacting with his mother. Sort of gave him some humanity, and also installs the drive towards him being special. Which of course, when he showed his mum how special he really was...Lead to some pretty bad consequences.

The one thing I don't like about the show: Seperate previews. The Canadian/American preview differences are so frustrating, but they make us privy to information you guys don't get south of the border...

SPOILER! MAJOR, MAJOR SPOILER Highlight to read.: Bennet kills Thompson in the next episode. Parkman distracts him, and Bennet rushes up to him, mutters a one liner, and blows his brains out. End of spoiler.

But yea.

As for the rest of the episode. Disappointed not to see Linderman in this one, considering how much shit is about to hit the fan in connection with him, although it was nice to get more Sylar back story.

The next one should be pretty good.
 
Oh you're really something teasing us like that with that spoiler alert, Reaper. You just know I want to read what it says don't you, :)

So you liked this one better than Five Years Gone huh? I guess I did too considering it didn't frustrate me like that episode did. But still, not too much in the way of moving forward happened. Episodes this late in the season shouldn't be filler (See: Smallville)

I'll give you the most interesting aspect of the episode was the attempted humanizing of Sylar but, well, we see how well that worked out.
 
We all have to remember, for some reason or another, Sylar thinks he is the bomb...Despite everyone else telling us it's Peter.

So, Sylar still wants to be special thanks to his mom telling him being a normal watch maker isn't enough...So, he figures he might as well go through with his destiny, and destroy New York. Thanks to Issac, he knows he can become President, and has caught on that the explosion will allow that to happen...Hence, fullfilling his mother's dream of him being special.

Now, all that aside, this was pretty much a "Here, let us explain Sylar episode." There was a VERY good chance that Sylar was going to quit his murderous ways and never be heard from again...Until his mother went all whackjob on him...Poor guy.

However, it's hardly just filler.

We have some potential solutions:

1.) The virus that was affecting Molly, preventing her from accessing her power, could be used as a potential gateway product to stop Sylar. Thompson says, "She's the only one who can stop Sylar." implying, that she can locate him. However, what if that's not what he meant?

If Sylar was injected with blood from Molly, knowing the company they've saved a few untested samples, what would happen?

Possibly, he'd be unable to access his powers and become a normal human...Or, since it's never been used on someone with more than one power, it could cause a meltdown...Hence, the explosion.

Using that framework, what if the shot meant for Sylar accidentally hit Peter? If it does cause a meltdown between the powers, Peter explodes and takes New York with him. Hence how he survives the blast himself, as it's simply every power being accessed at once at it's full capacity. This would also probably be enough to destroy the virus within Peter, allowing him to regain access to his powers once he comes to.

Of course, that's just my theory on how this Molly Walker thing is going to play out.

2.) Mohinder = power. Seeing as his sister had an ability, and most sibilings through blood do, it would not be unlikely to see Mohinder get his own ability sometime here in the future...It may even be something we've seen Mohinder do before...But I don't know if extreme-gullability is a power though...

3.) Death, Death, Death: This episode sort of sets the tone for the rest of the season. A lot of people are about to die. Because of Linderman, Thompson, Bennet, and the rest invovled in the Company, a whole lot of characters are going to die within the next two mondays. The smart bets would be on Ted, D.L, Nathan and Linderman being among those who hit the floor.

Other people still think Sylar, Peter, Claire and Niki/Jessica will be killed off. Who knows, but the body count is going to increase over the next two episodes...

And that's all I've got to say about this for now...
 
Okay, here goes my attempt at some responses

First, Reaper

1) I actually really like these ideas and this is something that actually makes sense to me.

Molly's blood in Sylar, as you said, would be very much a mysterious thing because we still don't know exactly how it is that Sylar obtains other abilities. Pressumably he's studying their brains by taking them apart the same way he does clocks to fix those, but until I get some direct confimation, he could be eating the brains for all I know.

So I'm liking the idea that he can be 'turned' into a normal human being somehow with a secret serum that will be used against him.

Of course, none of that really meshes well with their direct plans to actually let New York explode, which seems to be what Linderman and Co. want for some reason. I'm not understanding, though, exactly why they're trying to locate Sylar and possibly working on some mystery serum at the same time as wanting New York to explode.

2. But gee, finally knowing that Mohinder's gullability is a power would explain so much wouldn't it. He's got to be the stupidest character on the show. And he's a geneticist!

3. I'm hoping Transformabitch dies not only because I despise the character (love the actress though) but because I despise the ability she has being used to fool us constantly. A few times here and there is one thing, but they do it too much now.

Hopefully Peter comes into contact with D.L. before he dies because when he does, and he will, someone will need that kick ass power.

I doubt Linderman will die. Besides an almost direct confirmation from the show creator that he'd play a huge roll in next season, we don't know that much about him or his motiviations, which is huge considering every character on the show is connected to him somehow, which is another reason they won't kill him off.

Sprague's a goner. Where's Gittleman? If she shows up again in the finale, she's probably toast too.

I'm hoping though that they don't kill Ando. That actor and Masi Oka work really well together and provide at least one funny moment for every scene they're in.


Okay, now your turn vermilion, lol.

I agree that they've clearly mishandedled all that time travelling conundrum but I like the Hiro character and Masi Oka. I think what you should remember that will probably help whenever you get frustrated with him (at least in the next two episodes) is that only three weeks have passed since the show began, so it's understandable that Hiro would make so many mistakes using them.

Not so understandable when the writers do it though....

Again, the back and forward with all the 'who is the exploding man stuff' is a little annoying because you get the feeling the writers have to make it be a certain person based on the belief that Hiro's time travel changes events. Plus we're still all under the assumption that it's a man that blows up the city. Certainly someone will blow up, but that doesn't mean they destory the city. We just have to wait and see.

I have the same thoughts regarding Jessica actually. She's taken over Niki's body for the time being because she had things to do for Linderman. Now that Linderman wants Micah instead, her behavior makes no sense to me in terms of what I assumed about the Nessica character. I love that the character is such an enigma though. This is one of those instances where I enjoy trying to figure the mystery out.

Whew...that was a lot. But fun still, lol.
 
So....


Anyone think Linderman, Mama Petrelli, Katio Nakamura and the other "older generation" were all invovled in a "Heroes Breeding Program"?
 
Who wants...SPOILERS, SPOILERS, SPOILERS!

I haven't decided...Youtube link the videos...Or just common link them.

Either way, some small clips from Monday's new episode...With small snipets of what is in the video, to avoid spoilers. As such, I'll just list the major characters in the clips:

Clip 1: Linderman, Niki/Jessica, D.L.



Clip 2: Hiro and Kaito Nakamura (Hiro's father)



Nothing too major revealed, but still...Watch at your own peril.
 
HOLY CRAP!

My cell phone just went off, and I got a call from Nathan Petrelli asking for my support. Too bad I don't live in New York....

Oh well, gotta love Heroes 360...Although, I wonder how much that 30 second call is going to cost me...
 
Wowza...

One episode left....

Lots of things to digest in this episode, and I'm short on time. I'll make my rambling, longer post later.
 
So many deaths!

Stupid Sylar.

Holy Linderman's brain! (can't he regenerate though?)

Did DL die? Or do we know?

Don't kill a little girl!

Walk Rena, WALK!!

Stupid Sylar. Again.

I've decided long sentences are superfluous when discussing this after just seeing an episode. The funny thing is you probably all know what I mean ;)
 
Wow, DL got Linderman good, didn't see that comming at all. The finale is going to be badass just looking at the previews. Sylar vs. Peter... I can't wait. :cool:
 
*Plans got pushed back, so here's my long rambling post ahead of schedule.*

For a enterance into the season finale, this was a damned good episode.

As predicted in a previous post, we lost some characters this week and a few of them were unexpected.

SPOILERS: Thompson was clearly going to die because of the clip in the Canadian Preview, whereas Linderman and D.L's deaths came out of left field. And then of course, poor trusting Ted lets the strange man get close, instead of going nuclear and frying him.SPOILERS END.

All in all, a very good episode. With a lot of subtle, funny moments, in a rather serious episode.

I don't know why, but when Parkman, Bennet, D.L, and Niki/Jessica were in the elevator with the corny elevator music playing, I was laughing. Just the awkward tension of the scene I guess.

Hiro's father's apperance was unexpected, but very welcome. I only wish they explained a bit more of his past, and how he knows the things he knows. Delve deeper into those issues.

And it was nice to see Peter actually access powers without trying, in terms of Parkman's mind reading to sense Sylar watching them.

And now of course, Sylar has confirmed himself to being the villain he thinks he is meant to be, and Peter is wondering whether or not he really is the bomb.

A very good episode, and I look forward to the next and season finale.


 
Did anybody hear about one of the seasons being a prequel to this current one (kinda alluding to what you said John)? I think that would be awesome.

Anywho, continue......
 
It looks like DL survives in the preview. Jessica and DL kicking Linderman's ass was the best scene in the entire season so far. I was blown away. We saw that Jessica does have somewhat of a heart since she allowed Niki to take over and stop herself from killing DL. We also got somewhat of confirmation that Niki is the "strong one."

"Boo."

I also really enjoyed "didn't I throw you out a window?"

So, we got to see a human side of Candice. I wonder what the REAL Candice really does look like.

What happened to Hana? She was in one episode and hasn't been seen since. I liked her.



I hope season 2 isn't a prequel. I really like the characters from this season and don't want to just not see them anymore or see them as children or something.
 
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