If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

[MakeDigitalLove]

I think you aren't grasping the point which is that there is no uniform "gay thing", you seem to agree with this, for people to fit in or out of. So why are you then saying someone is trying to distance themselves out of the "gay thing" (which you say doesn't exist) when they describe themselves in ANY way?

You are distancing yourself from your actual sexuality by claiming you you have "straight" behavior as if there is a "gay behavior" that is exclusive to gays. I am not claiming a "gay thing" exists because I am not the one that considers myself straight acting, because if there is a "straight behavior" that you're adopting then there has to be a "gay behavior" otherwise the term makes no sense. And I am not saying I believe this behavior exists, I am saying if you do then the opposite has to exist.

I already said earlier I do not believe masculinity or being effeminate is exclusive to any gender or sexual orientation.

 

[Rolyo85]

And this statement implies a uniformity to being gay which supercedes individuality, that several people have pointed out may not even exist.

If someone openly admits to being gay then I am not sure how you say they are distancing themselves from being gay.

I mean, obviously it's not about BEING gay, it's about being thought of as fitting a narrow gay stereotype. Which, ironically, gay men seem to be more concerned with than straight ones.

 

[xbuzzerx]

You are distancing yourself from your actual sexuality by claiming you you have "straight" behavior as if there is a "gay behavior" that is exclusive to gays. I am not claiming a "gay thing" exists because I am not the one that considers myself straight acting, because if there is a "straight behavior" that you're adopting then there has to be a "gay behavior" otherwise the term makes no sense. And I am not saying I believe this behavior exists, I am saying if you do then the opposite has to exist.

I already said earlier I do not believe masculinity or being effeminate is exclusive to any gender or sexual orientation.

I think absolutely the only thing I have in common with you by virtue of being gay is that I'm into men.

Since I say that openly, I'm not really obliged to "identify" with you on any other level... nor distancing myself away from you when I describe MYSELF. It has nothing to do with you.

 

[Rolyo85]

I had a 3rd ¨are we¨ but it felt a bit insulting so I decided not to use it. Some grammar rules can be broken, in special circumstances.

Exaggerated gayness? Really? Oh God, if you could read your post from another perspective, you could learn something. If straight=asshole is what you understand from this thread, I advise you - again and again - to re-read the thread.

This is not the first time you mix "straight" and "straight acting". I am confused as to why that is.

 

[RaKroma]

"Straight acting?" *yawn*

I actually haven't heard the term used in a few years. Now it's all about "masc."

"Masc" is improperly thrown around though to mean a queen on steroids who wears a baseball cap backwards 24/7 to look "straight."

 

[xbuzzerx]

"Masc" is improperly thrown around though to mean a queen on steroids who wears a baseball cap backwards 24/7 to look "straight."

We also call those "tools"

 

[aaggii]

This is not the first time you mix "straight" and "straight acting". I am confused as to why that is.

It was probably an effect of your rudeness on me. And I´m not a native English speaker, I´m aware of my mistakes, even if too late. However, you jumped from one to another here, taking my post and only pointing out this mistake. You already have in the first pages the answers to every question you lately asked. While risking of repeating for the 10th time everything everyone said in this thread, I welcome your questions, but please think of showing more respect.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Aaggii I do like your avatar. I dont know why I decided to say that now. Lol.

 

[G-Lexington]

I picture him in a cheesecake pose.

Nice! Except why would he park his carcass on a marble slab when there's a comfy chair right behind? Those are the sort of probing, penetrating questions I hope to tackle...

Lex

 

[Rolyo85]

It was probably an effect of your rudeness on me. And I´m not a native English speaker, I´m aware of my mistakes, even if too late. However, you jumped from one to another here, taking my post and only pointing out this mistake. You already have in the first pages the answers to every question you lately asked. While risking of repeating for the 10th time everything everyone said in this thread, I welcome your questions, but please think of showing more respect.

Fair enough. And I am a foreigner too, so I feel ya.

To answer your actual post from before - I was joking, although I do feel there is a bit of a douche quality to calling yourself SA.

As for "the first 10 pages" thing, I could say the same. Clearly we are not understanding each other. Also, so many people never got past the way I phrased things to actually read the things themselves, but that's my fault for phrasing them provocatively.

All that said though, there is nothing more I can add. The very defense of SA makes it redundant and illogical. If there isn't ONE straight behavior, then there can't be one gay behavior either. The fact someone feels they are so far removed from "teh gay" that they are more similar to some "straight" stereotype already proves there is no gay behavior to be the opposite of. If you are a gay guy who doesn't act like a stereotype, then that means not every gay guy acts the same way, which means there is no gay acting to be the opposite of.

The whole thing borders on the absurd.

Some food for thought: has anybody heard of a "white-acting" black/Asian guy? A "man-acting" woman? A "Muslim-acting" Christian? A "pedophile-acting" necrophile? Other than the last one, I am sure examples of all of the above can be found, but has anyone ever met a person that identified themselves like that? "Sure, I'm black, but I'm not like THOSE blacks you know, I'm white-acting"... Wuut?

 

[blackbeltninja]

By considering yourself straight acting, otherwise you'd just say you were gay and that is it.

I'm not sure how this logic computes.

We're mostly using the term "straight-acting" to describe ourselves on GAY social/hookup sites. Ergo, we are saying we are gay. You know, because we're looking for lust on gay hookup sites. Also, the guy who is reading the profile on the gay hookup site probably has a fairly good idea that... we are gay. It really shouldn't need saying, should it? Straight-acting is merely a descriptor of a look and set of mannerisms, like you might describe someone as a jock, or twink, or bear, or effeminate, or flaming, or tall, or muscular. You can't be a straight-acting straight, can you?

How is this not obvious on post 500 of this thread?

I'm getting the feeling that half of you are just taking the piss, and that at some point someone will end the gag, point out the hidden camera and we'll all laugh, maybe.

-d-

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Ive already made my points about it.

 

[Kulindahr]

We've discussed the "straight-acting" thing on another thread about a year ago.

Adding in my $0.73 (after generations of inflation): I have no issue with the term STRAIGHT-ACTING, because ACTING has more than one definition. The definition people have an issue with, here, is that they're defining "ACTING" as role-playing. No, I'm not - ACTING also means how a person (or something else) BEHAVES. ACTING also means performing an action.

"Straight-acting" to me, means that a person conducts himself/herself in ways that an outside observer may easily be led to believe that person is straight. It may have nothing to do with intention, or acting deliberately, at all, but that's simply how that person acts (BEHAVES).

Quoted because the arrogant here have ignored it, thus proving they aren't interested in discussion -- just in screaming that they're right.

Breeders love being called breeders. Fact of life. Deal with it.

They like you using a term of contempt? Wow. If you called a typical guy around here a breeder, there's a good chance you'd find yourself chained to a fence so a bull could show you what breeding really is....

Aaaaand, where was I anti masculine again? I am masculine myself. I have to wear a rainbow bracelet just so people don't think I'm straight.

So by definition, you are straight-acting: the way you act is indistinguishable from the general straight population.

Not at all. But we are different individuals, everybody has his own way of being, behaviour, way of acting around people, not by changing who they are, but actually showing who they are. You said it´s a problem with the name and now you go back to why such a concept exists. It´s a description, nothing else. Straight-acting implies, pretty much, being gay, so there is no separation from anything.

Exactly.

Straight-acting doesn't imply being gay when Straight is the opposite of being Gay.

Let's see -- do straight guys ever call themselves "straight-acting"?

No. Only gay guys call themselves that, which shows that it means you're gay.

 

[Kulindahr]

In some parts of the US being "straight acting" could very well save your life.

But those aren't real gays, or they would act gay instead of straight, so their deaths don't count.

 

[Kulindahr]

I mean, obviously it's not about BEING gay, it's about being thought of as fitting a narrow gay stereotype. Which, ironically, gay men seem to be more concerned with than straight ones.

Maybe YOU do.

 

[Kulindahr]

Nice! Except why would he park his carcass on a marble slab when there's a comfy chair right behind? Those are the sort of probing, penetrating questions I hope to tackle...

Lex

He'd break the chair.

 

[Rolyo85]

They like you using a term of contempt? Wow. If you called a typical guy around here a breeder, there's a good chance you'd find yourself chained to a fence so a bull could show you what breeding really is....

Is it a term of contempt if the one it's addressed at doesn't consider it as such and doesn't get offended? And I feel pity for you if that's the kind of shitty hellhole you live in, but where I've been, straight people laugh at it and some actually love it. Or I wouldn't be using it. PS - you ignored my question. Are you actually out?

So by definition, you are straight-acting: the way you act is indistinguishable from the general straight population.

Utterly false. There are multiple nuances in my behavior, speech and body language that make it clear I am gay. They are subtle enough though, that they require actual contact with me and aren't clearly visible by just looking at me. I might be "straight" looking in the sense that I don't fit straight perception of what a "stereotypical" gay guy looks like, but I am not straight acting, and neither is ANY "straight acting" I've ever met. Or maybe I just have a very good gaydar. Either way, whatever I am, I would choke on my own vomit before I use the word "straight" in any way to describe myself.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

But those aren't real gays, or they would act gay instead of straight, so their deaths don't count.

Wow. How insensitive.

 

[Rolyo85]

Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

Maybe YOU do.

Did you seriously totally misread my very simple post, or was this some form of a "your face!" response?

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Wow. How insensitive.

Yeah, I notice he's being awfully aggressive in this thread. I wonder what nerve has been hit.

 

[Callum]

'Breeder' is derogative and on the same level as 'faggot' and 'nigger' for me. And I don't like being called any of the three. You are a very hateful and angst-ridden individual, sorry.