Is liking twinks pedophilia?

[rareboy]

I did look it up and don't think "psychiatric disorder" is the correct word.
I watched this whole video.

To be blunt, Telstra, your opinion of whether it is the correct word or not doesn't really count for anything in this instance. You and real paedophiles can try to make up any definition that makes you feel better, but it is what it is.

Paedophilia isn't just about an innocent fascination with the pre-pubescent sexual organs of a child, but also comes with the desire to dominate and exploit an avoidance of reciprocal emotionally equal attachment at an adult level.

 

[Telstra]

Feel better? Nope zero
Once upon a time, homo was a ""psychiatric disorder" and you know what happened to those homos.
So psychiatry is not a clear science like physics or chemistry. It could be completely wrong.

 

[rareboy]

There is no conflation between homosexuality and paedophilia. One includes emotionally complete relationships between consenting adults. One does not.

The use of pre-pubescent children who have no emotional or intellectual capacity for agreeing to consensual sexual acts is rape pure and simple. It is not about the sex. It is about the power dynamic in the act.

And frankly, until you have the title of Doctor attached to your name with a specialization in psychiatry and/or psychology, you only sound like an apologist for child abusers.

 

[rareboy]

I would also note that the answer to the OP's original question still remains No.

 

[gsdx]

Feel better? Nope zero
Once upon a time, homo was a ""psychiatric disorder"

No, it wasn't. Medical or psychological, perhaps, but never psychiatric.

And before you say anything, there is an enormous difference between psychiatric and psychological.

 

[Telstra]

No, it wasn't. Medical or psychological, perhaps, but never psychiatric.

And before you say anything, there is an enormous difference between psychiatric and psychological.

I don't see much difference.
You can point out the difference then.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

On some occasions, it can be hard to assess someone's age without asking for ID. When I was a teen, I hooked up with a kid in a bathroom (something I never did, but it seemed like routine for him). He looked much older than me, and when I took him home we did some smalltalk. I asked him if he worked or studied and he said he was in "tercera de letras" which I, having just moved to the country, interpreted as third year of literature at university, so about 21-22 years old. Sounded plausible, my guess would have been 24. It was only later I found out he was actually a few years my junior, in his third year in secundary education.

Last week at a gay sauna I bumped into a seventeen-year-old that looked twenty years older. And yesterday I dated a 52-year-old that looked twenty years younger. Of course this is all unusual, but once in a while, it does happen. Two years ago I hooked up through the internet with a kid in the neighbourhood. He said he was 19 and his pics were a bit blurry but when he was here he looked teenish (no body fat but no muscle either). After sex we chatted about my pet, and a pet of his that he grew up with and that just died. Then I was able to figure out his real age from the age of his pet who was born before him. I asked him not to come back until his birthday this year. Which he did.

 

[Level27]

^^^

It's always hard to learn that someone is underage when you were having a really good time with him or her.

 

[kev]

In Canada, the age of consent is 14 if you're straight, 18 if you're gay. Sure it's a double standard, but I think it should be raised above 14 though... that is just TOO young.

Oh Canada...

 

[Kienny]

I only skimmed this thread, but has anyone even defined what a twink is here? Yes, I know people have varying definitions of what a twink is, but unless there's something defined, you guys might not even be talking about the same thing.

Sometimes, we seem to be equated to this "barely legal" shit, but that's not what we're about.

I feel like saying liking twinks = pedophilia is almost as offensive as saying homosexuality --> beastiality.

That's just me. I'm a twink, though.

 

[Level27]

I think the OP's specific definition of "twink" for the topic at hand includes not only a skinny hairless guy: it emphasizes that he is (very) young and on the dancing in-between line of physical maturity and immaturity.

 

[Kienny]

Just to show the spectrum of definitions or beliefs about twinks in this thread. Note the text in red is what the OP said.

twinks considered pedophilia? There is a word for adults who are sexually attracted to teens.

Some like [NOT] hairy men, some like [NOT] muscle men, and some like twinks.

What may be overlooked is that for some, twinks represent a possible feminine quality, or perhaps frail. That is different from child-like.

The twink might also represent a less threatening encounter, or remind the attracted partner of youth and less jaded or cynical times when sex was exploratory.

Also, thanks to awful porn misuse, twink has been applied to anyone who is hairless, including body builders and athletes. Not the original meaning by a long shot.

twinks had pubic hair, chest hair, facial hair, and usually lots and lots of hair hair. It was a 'age' thing, usually from 18 to 25. These days, with shaved bodies and shaved pubes, it's all about looking younger than 18, even pubescent.

When I was talking about twinks I mean like the Johnny Rapid kind of look from Men.com

Twinks are usually endomorphic-bodied and youthful, usually between 15-25 or so. Some older teens and young adults have a twink appearance

I have tried to figure out what the fascination is with twinks. I don't find them sexually attractive or emotionally interesting. So it always baffles me that there are adults who do.

skinny young men

I've heard people define "twink" based solely on age, body type, presence (or lack of) of body/facial hair, personality, emotion, and even intellect, or a combination.

One of the responses here said he does not find twinks "emotionally interesting." I thought to myself...what does that even mean? Do twinks have a certain attitude or personality?

Another said the word could be applied to athletes, but he does not believe that to be correct. Athletes can't be twinks? Twinks can't be athletes? Does that mean any athlete is a "jock"?

...................................................well.

 

[nycguydowntown]

It sounds like the age of consent is really 18 in Canada which makes sense then. I think 14 or 16 is too young to consent for sex.

I thought it was 16 in England maybe I'm wrong.
I thought a twink was a 18 to 29 year old skinny gay guy with a big dick---but gay terminology isn't my thing. They hit on me and that has been my experience or rather my definition.

 

[medic1]

No it is not, though there is something disconcerting when you witness a man in his late 50's drooling over an 18yr old.

 

[Kulindahr]

Note that there's a difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

Age of consent is a legal matter, which is entirely separate from sexual attraction.

Excellent and essential distinction!

 

[Level27]

A line which has been blurred.

A line which seems to me, frighteningly, many Western legal process have allowed to be blurred.

 

[Telstra]

Since people "mature" at different age.
Should the court system be smart enough to consider these age range factors rather than draw a line either over 18 or under 18 ??

The legal age should be an age range say between 15 and 21 ???
Some people still not mature enough and dumb when they are 20.

 

[rareboy]

^ No.

Society cannot afford the individualist approach to this.

It would have no meaning whatsoever. It would only make for rich lawyers as they set about to prove/disprove the maturity of a person in order to assign culpability.

Sometimes society just needs to draw a line and damn the exceptions.

Because otherwise, everything is an exception.

 

[luckynumbah7]

^ No.

Society cannot afford the individualist approach to this.

It would have no meaning whatsoever. It would only make for rich lawyers as they set about to prove/disprove the maturity of a person in order to assign culpability.

Sometimes society just needs to draw a line and damn the exceptions.

Because otherwise, everything is an exception.

Yeah, that.

Besides, if you've the maturity to be having sex then you've also the maturity to also wait for that niggling couple years' age legality that's been socially approved to reduce victimization. If (general) you can't wait I'd seriously sideeye the ability to say/hear no/yes, in other words, the ability to 'play responsibly', since self control seems to suck.

 

[rareboy]

I've talked to people who started their sexual careers very early.

In fact the best friend I taught to jerk off then went on to discover girls and have a baby when he was 15 and she was 14 and then divorced by 18 and frankly he was all fucked out when last I spoke to him. By the age of 18, he was looking for more and more interesting and extreme shit...when you think that you likely have 20 or 30 years of great sex ahead of you after you reach the age of 18...what the fuck is the rush?

I don't think that I really sacrificed anything by being the ripe old age of 20 before I had a totally mature, mind-blowing full on fuck...with an older guy ( by about 20 years) I would point out. God knows I was ready for it when it did finally happen...but honestly, in retrospect, the thought of having the previous 6 years of my life revolve around all the dramatics and theatrics of sex makes me so glad that there was a kind of line drawn.

Looking back, everything before the point of the big bang would have only been about orgasm and hyper-angst and confusing crushes and cumming with love and emotional fulfilment.

So for everyone who is lusting after that 15 year old...just stop it. Leave them sexually frustrated or completely innocent or whatever. Every kid has his own hand to keep him company. They don't need you.

No matter what their disturbed sexually precocious minds might believe.