Attention Malaysia Airlines 777 missing between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing; 239 on board

[Telstra]

^ i mean shock fire and water resistant powerful transmitters ...

 

[kallipolis]

^ i mean shock fire and water resistant powerful transmitters ...

Aviation engineers might well say that such devices are constructed to continue operating when an aircraft is destroyed by whatever...

That the media is reporting a complex set of stories that contradict one another...it could well be said that someone, somewhere has something to hide.....but I'm not a conspiracy theoriest...therefore, prefer to wait, and see what the search reveals.....if anything.

 

[palbert]

A Stanford student has come uo with about the most plausible explanation I've heard so far - and certainly as plausible as anything Malaysia has advanced.

According to the directive which he quotes, there had been a report of "cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication (satcom) antenna adapter".

From this, he theorised that MH370 could have experienced the same issue, leading to the failure of satellite-based communications as well as to a slow decompression of the plane which left passengers unconscious and pilots disoriented. "If the decompression was slow enough, it’s possible the pilots did not realise to put on oxygen masks until it was too late," he wrote.

He also noted that the Boeing 777 aircraft does not deploy passenger oxygen masks until the cabin altitude reaches 13,500 feet. By then, passengers were likely to be unconscious if there was a slow decompression. Moreover, MH370 was a red-eye flight and most passengers would be trying to sleep, hence masking the effects of oxygen deprivation.

http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big...students-theory-mas-mh370-goes-viral-20140312
[Singapore]

 

[star-warrior]

^I'd second your opinion of his theory...

 

[palbert]

It appears the theory as advanced in Post #71 is not possible. But the only element challenged would be the cause of the fuselage rupture and slow decompression.

Boeing has confirmed that it issued a safety alert in June last year for Boeing 777s, telling airlines to check for cracks in the fuselage around a satellite antenna. The FAA in the US has issued a directive for repairs to be carried out. Boeing says the 777-200ER Malaysia Airlines aircraft did not have that antenna installed and was not subject to the FAA order.

theguardian.com live blog [from AP and Reuters]

 

[Telstra]

A Stanford student has come uo with about the most plausible explanation I've heard so far - and certainly as plausible as anything Malaysia has advanced.

Smart student.
How come those "experts" didn't come up with these sorts of explanations.
They talked on TV about nothing much.

 

[evanrick]

Smart student.
How come those "experts" didn't come up with these sorts of explanations.
They talked on TV about nothing much.

well it now definitely sounds like 2 separate related things happened, but if the pilots did lose consciousness maybe they should think about creating an autopilot system that will re-engage itself if its turned off but the pilots pass out.

 

[dereperez]

He was on that plane ?

Now, repeat after me.
You weren't in that plane.

 

[pat grimshaw]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/bl...is-detected-by-chinese-satellite-live-updates

Mutual suspicion and a lack of communication among regional neighbors continue to hamper the search
There is an underlying lack of trust in these matters,”

“The issues of protecting territory, security intelligence and interests are starting to win over the common goal of finding the plane and closure.”

...governments were reluctant to share the data because it would reveal their capabilities and compromise security.

“There may be some military sensitivity because the radar is not continuous, it sort of sweeps around a couple of times,”

 

[palbert]

The clearest information we now have is coming from US sources.

Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.
....
U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were "systematically shut down."

That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.

U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...cation-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802

NOTE: The pings do not convey location or plane data, but they do indicate operation of the engine. Malaysia Airlines did not subscribe to the engine data transmissions. How long the pings took place has not been released.

NOTE: India is also deploying naval and air assets to the Indian Ocean areas.

NOTE: Aside from its SAR helicopters, the USS KIDD has surface scanning radar that can detect objects the size of a football.

NOTE: The "black box" has battery power for 30 days.

(Long quote and post because of complexity of circumstances.)

 

[ChickenGuy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26583342

Lost Malaysia plane 'may have flown on for five hours'

The missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have been flying for more than five hours after it disappeared, the BBC has learned.

It is believed the plane was sending automated signals to a satellite system long after radar contact was lost.

This would mean the jet could have flown more than 1,600km (1,000 miles) beyond its last confirmed position.

So.... where do we look now?

The Indian Ocean?

If a plane going north suddenly breaks off contact, makes a left-turn, and heads west for hours, I can't see ANY other cause for this EXCEPT hi-jacking, and then either the plane ran out of fuel, or the hi-jackers deliberately crashed the plane, or it went down as they all fought to regain control or something.

It's happened before - over a decade ago off the coast of Africa, a plane was seized, and the hi-jackers refused to listen to the warnings of the crew, it eventually ran out of fuel, and it crash-landed in the sea (it was caught on camera) - found it on Youtube - Ethiopian Flight 961.

If all these reports are true (the link in my post, plus palbert's quoted segment in the post above) I really can't see any other explanation.

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ The pilot of the Ethiopian Airlines jet had been hijacked THREE times!

 

[borg69unimatrix]

I heard on the radio there are actually quite a few abandoned US Military runways kinda in that area.

 

[Spiff]

For all anyone knows the plane could have crashed on a mysterious hidden island with many survivors living among polar bears, smoke monsters, and "the others".

 

[Yooper]

For all anyone knows the plane could have crashed on a mysterious hidden island with many survivors living among polar bears, smoke monsters, and "the others".

**DING DING DING**
We have a winner!

(Actually, this is starting to really sound like the plot of several James Bond movies.)

 

[Alnitak]

A Stanford student has come uo with about the most plausible explanation I've heard so far - and certainly as plausible as anything Malaysia has advanced.

He also noted that the Boeing 777 aircraft does not deploy passenger oxygen masks until the cabin altitude reaches 13,500 feet. By then, passengers were likely to be unconscious if there was a slow decompression. Moreover, MH370 was a red-eye flight and most passengers would be trying to sleep, hence masking the effects of oxygen deprivation.

http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-...viral-20140312
[Singapore]

El Alto, Bolivia is home to a million people at 13,600 feet.

 

[Kulindahr]

Since no one else has . . . .


It was aliens, obviously: grad students from Galactic U scooped the plane up with an interstellar drone under cloak, and will be depositing the passengers on a paradise planet where they will live in primitive conditions to be recorded and broadcast on U.Y.V.*









*Universal You-View

 

[cgymike]

Probably south of Cocos(Keeling) ....

 

[palbert]

I can categorically state that MH370 is not on the very frozen lake in front of my house.

 

[ChickenGuy]

Three rather outlandish headlines on the front pages of three Sunday newspapers over here....

(1) Doomed airliner pilot was political fanatic (Mail on Sunday) - claims that the pilot was a fervent supporter of a convicted opposition leader, and had been at his trial just hours before, and had hi-jacked his own plane as a 'political protest'.

(2) Lost plane: Fears of 9/11 style plot (Sunday Telegraph) - claims that a terrorist cell was going to stage an attack, suggested target was Petronas Towers skyscrapers in Kuala Lumpur (twin towers similar to WTC) and that the Malaysian authorities are covering the fact up.

(3) World's first cyber hijack (Sunday Express) - claims that the controls were hacked into, and the plane was remotely operated, and suggests that such a thing could be done by someone onboard using a mobile phone.



Although, if I had to give credence to one, it would be something similar to the first - it is possible that one of the pilots hi-jacked his own flight - for reasons unknown, but probably that he was crazy or off his head for some reason.

Actually, there seems to be some evidence supporting the theory that it was one of the pilots:

- Two different systems on the plane for giving its tracking and location were manually shut down, which require significant technical knowledge of the controls and operation of the Boeing 777, its instruments, and their location.

- If it were a passenger, there is a four-digit code that a pilot can easily input to send a signal telling the authorites on the ground that's the plane's been hijacked. No such signal was ever sent.

....and the mystery goes on, and on....