Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

[luckynumbah7]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

-as for fgm of course parents are going to try and carry on tradition. Thats what humans do, for the most part. That's why advocating just cutting/nicking the hood is preferred to what's usually done. The perfect is the enemy of the good. Take what you advocate and try for more, but I wouldn't bother pretending circumcision feels anything physically like fgm. Or has the same mental health consequences. I'm not saying it can't and isn't detrimental to some people, or that it should've been done. Far from it. However, I'm more than a bit sick of you comparing such disparate things. The only thing they have in common is that it's the genital area and no one asked the kid.

Tell you what, you go lose your dick and then get back to us.

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btw, i only disagree with your conclusion here: something done without regard for someone's autonomy is something they can later demand be defined as mutilation.




A distinction between verb and noun that I don't find very meaningful.

That's because you're considered normal.

And that wasn't my conclusion. Adults can describe themselves however they wish, as can children. What you can't do is claim mutilation for all.

 

[bankside]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

-as for fgm of course parents are going to try and carry on tradition. Thats what humans do, for the most part. That's why advocating just cutting/nicking the hood is preferred to what's usually done. The perfect is the enemy of the good. Take what you advocate and try for more, but I wouldn't bother pretending circumcision feels anything physically like fgm. Or has the same mental health consequences. I'm not saying it can't and isn't detrimental to some people, to that it should've been done. However, I'm more than a bit sick of you comparing such disparate things. The only thing they have in common is that it's the genital area and no one asked the kid.

Tell you what, you go lose your dick and then get back to us.

That EXACT same nicking procedure is available for males - first read about it in use by some jewish parents who wanted to respect their children's bodies while perpetuating the cultural ritual. Why would it be so hard to just advocate for that as a blanket solution for children of all genders? Let's never ever compare the disparate things whose pragmatic solution is IDENTICAL. Yup. Good job.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

@bankside,

If you're going to claim I'm being glib about losing genitalia kindly have the metaphorical balls to do it in public instead of hiding in a notification. Lost genitalia is a common issue for those with ambiguous genitalia, something I thank god I didn't have insurance for at the time.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

I see you've left me another notification- I'm not reading it. You want to argue in good faith, do it in public. And while you're here scribbling away another ignorant, half-informed screed, perhaps you can ponder what having abnormal or absent genitalia entails.

Personally entails, that is, while also not basing your opinions off a single individual. Because it isn't as simple as mutilated vers needed surgery. I was quite serious with the losing your dick comment because at this point it's the only way you'll get a clue.

 

[bankside]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

won't read; won't think. set that bar high, lucky. not everything about people who are not me is for public consumption. the SJWs always have their own special way of "creating safe space." happily, it will ultimately lead to them shredding each other into a mass of irrelevance, and they'll lose more than a dick, and then the adults can run the show without the distraction.

 

[SaskGuy]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

Social conditioning is a powerful thing. After all, look at how many people promote forced genital mutilation.

 

[KaraBulut]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

Well, I can't resist. I remember on more than a few occasions seeing mothers with infant/toddler girls, they had their ears pierced.

Immunization might be a better analogy. Parents do it with the best of intention and religion often plays a part in the decision.

I'm entitled to describe what was done to me, without my consent and without any pressing medical need, however I like.

By all means, get naked and stand in front of the mirror and call yourself mutiliated if that's what you want to do. Just stop referring to other member's penises with rhetoric. We get enough of that from the Religious Right.

Or you can get therapy.

Or both.

Do you show similar regard for the sensibilities of practitioners of Female Genital Mutilation?

Infibulation (the appropriate term) is not a comparable procedure and I'm not going to take your bait.

 

[jbrown329]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

My brother is 5yrs older than me. He was born in a small town hospital. He wasn't circumcised. Me born 5yrs later in a small (at the time) city was circumcised. I don't hold it against my mother that it was done. Wish she hadn't. Oh well.

 

[peeonme]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

Personally, I wish that foreskins were not part of the package, but they are. I think in most instances especially when flaccid a penis looks better without foreskin.
I think I feel that way because every penis I ever enjoyed (on another guy) was circumcised.
In principle I have to be opposed to an unnecessary irreversible operation done on an infant. Personally, I see no harm in circumcision, but I see no benefit either, so why do it? Just so they look the way I want them to look is not a good reason.

 

[frankfrank]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

^ I also find circumcised ones more "attractive" than intact, but as you said, my preference has nothing to do with the argument. I've run into a marginally higher percentage of intact dicks than you mentioned earlier above, but not many more (perhaps 3%?).

had their ears pierced.

I know holes in the ear will close up, but it's been my experience that there is still a minute scar left behind.

BAD PUN time, I guess. Because this thread needs something that's not as serious.

So, if somebody has the same ear pierced again, and in a slightly different place, there will be a second scar.

It took me much less than an hour to think of this silliness.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

It took me much less than an hour to think of this silliness.

Well, the daily grind does turn cogitation into a weekly battle.

Ha. Love wordplay.

 

[jockofstrap]

Re: What is the thing with circumcision in The US ?!

Like many of babies born after WW II I was cut several days after my birth. Of course I had no say so in being cut. Most of the boys grew up with in school and gym class were cut. Very few were uncut those who were often were made object of ridicule for not being cut. They were the lucky ones to have a compete cock. I have come to adore guys who are uncut and into docking.

 

[mikey3000]

Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Yup, it is . It's been a while ya know.

This morning my boss, a few colleagues and I started duscussing circumcision as my boss just had a son last week, and it was interesting to hear the reasoning on eather side. My boss and his want their son cut because my boss isn't and he hates it. The colleague, who is cut, left is son "intact" because that is the fashion. The women in the conversation all aggreed to cut because, "well, it looks better, smells better and easier to service."

The interesting point being, not one person presented any kind of medical or scientific research to support their decision. Not one! As these are all educated people, I found that a little surprising. Maybe it really is a personal preference and all the proof in the world won't change it. I thought it was very interesting.

 

[rareboy]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

It is simple. It is a procedure that should only be decided by an adult male for himself.

If a guy wants this body modification as an adult, great. If not, great.

In cases of juvenile Phimosis, there are alternatives to full circumcision.

 

[JohnnyAnger]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Easier to serve? In what way I wonder? Not being cut at the least saves me on lube.

I wonder why the boss hates not being cut as well? It's a strange thing to hate either way, and in his situation he could just get cut if he hates it so much.

 

[Cormac135]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Cut them all at birth, they look a lot better in porn films.

 

[kallipolis]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Clearly there are those here who prefer not to suck on the candy wrapping, preferring the candy to come unwrapped.

 

[otters]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Easier to serve? In what way I wonder? Not being cut at the least saves me on lube.

I wonder why the boss hates not being cut as well? It's a strange thing to hate either way, and in his situation he could just get cut if he hates it so much.

… and later in your life these certain blue pills — one can compare the sales figures in different countries — and so on and so on.

As a rational person, before I state whether I'm pro or contra, I must check my portfolio what body lotion and pharma stocks are in it

 

[peeonme]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Truly, the resolution to this lies with the thought that it is all a matter of taste...

 

[otters]

Re: Another circumcision tbread? Oh man...

Truly, the resolution to this lies with the thought that it is all a matter of taste...

No, not a matter of taste — actually it's a matter of industry and commerce, at least in the USA.