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Undying love for my best friend...please read(long

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Makes me happy to read the updates, dude!
I'm actually envious -- you have such an awesome buddy, even though there's that distance between you, and now you have someone to share bodily pleasures with! ROCKIN'!
 
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Hey guys whats up...


Feeling a lot of anxiety tonight and like something is sitting on my chest...I hate having anxiety/panic attacks... :mad:


Called my buddy to get less anxious...and he sounded down..I asked why and he said that he had gotten into a fight with his girl and he said some mean things..I said what..the C word? He goes no worse..He said that she called him fat and that he said "yeah but all the girls still wanna suck my dick"

He had gone out the night before with anthony who is very shady and Im sure my buddy was flirting with all the girls..


I got pissed because he said that to his girl and down because its just another statement that shows me how straight he is... :(


Talk to you all later..brian


P.S. He asked if Im helping him out with some money and I said I should be able to on Tuesday.
 
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Reading back through this, I decided I think you still need to tell him. You talk about "indications", but you don't KNOW. Believe me, knowing will make things better; the "Well, I know what he'll say" but you know inside you DON'T because you haven't HEARD it -- that will eat at you.
Get it out there, done with.
Yesterday.
 
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LostVegas said:
Today at school a woman my age who used to work in my school came back and told us how teaching in California was just so great and how she enjoys it in Beverly Hills.

This other woman my age in my school currently working there , who I get along with well and who is also this Cali ladies best friend..suggested that me and her go be roommates out there in Cali in the fall or maybe next year.

Um, just a thought, but wouldn't you moving to LA be a good thing for both of you? It is just a couple of hours away from Las Vegas, unlike New York, so you would at least see each other more often.

Just wondering.
J.
 
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LA would be a good thing and my buddy even said he would rather have me in LA than in NYC, but he also said that he really wouldnt want that either and that he needs to be in the same state....


Just called him 30 minutes ago while I was making dinner(he asked if I was cooking for two tonight..)

He said he feels like giving up and quitting.

He also said that some of his friends had said to him "why do you talk about this Brian dude so much..and why do you care so much about this guy?" He went onto say that they can all go f themselves and that no one understands what pain we are in and not many people want us to be in the same state. We both said we missed each other.

He said he misses me so much and to prove how much I meant to him he would literally drive back down to NYC to help me move my stuff to come live with them. He said he would enjoy me living there and I wouldnt be a burden and that it would be great to eb aroudn me some more. I said that I was flattered by what he said, but I need to finish my masters.

Guys I really do wanna see him. I cant wait till August. Cant wait to tell him either.

Talk to you all later..bri
 
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Funny you replied with that Green, I was just going :D to do that tonight..So here goes.


Well the past few days have been pretty depressing. And last night was really bad. We both spoke during these days but it was all about the "I miss you to death" stuff, nothing really new.

Lately in our talks I have been slowly mentioning that "there is something I want to talk to you about but cant right now.." And he says Bri you told me so much..why not this. But I let it go.

Last evening I found that that my mother is cutting me off from money I was to receive. She knows how much I want to be out there with my friend and I think she is making it hard for me. So this was money I was planning on using for the rest of my masters classes. So I had to take 1800 dollars out of my four grand I had left.

Today was also the day I had to help my buddy out. I wired money to him too. Needless to say I became very stressed. I was stressed about my finances or the lack thereof and this notion about getting out of NY seems to be getting more distant and distant. #-o

I was really depressed about having to go into my savings account. I had prided myself on not dipping into it and saving all I could and to have it suddenly half gone in one morning got to me. !oops!

I registered for my next two classes today(4 more to go after this!) and I came home and Western Union-ed the money to him. I had to call him to make sure he knew the password they had given me to give to him to get the money.

I called and he was very slurry in his speech. I asked If I had woken him up and he said no. He said he was finding it hard to get out of bed because he was severely depressed and he was thinking dumb thoughts, about hurting himself(he would never do it, hes just feeling that way) I said I know bro you just to stick with it and a job will come through.

He said fuck all of that, it is not that. "Its about you not being here. I cannot take it and I need to do something for you to come out here."

He told me "No one, not on single person in this planet understands me but you..no one." !oops!

He has told me this several times before. I must admit it made me feel good that he was missing me.

I told him I hate hearing about who he is hanging out with out there and he said he knows that.

Our talk then got onto slowly about me being gay.

His girl was not home and out on a job interview.

I tell you, when she is not around he talks a lot better with me.

We got onto so many things in terms of me being gay..

"Bri does Matt have tatoos?
"Bri you have to show me a pic of Matt"
"If you get serious with Matt I have to meet him eventually"

then he started joking

"Maybe me and Matt will become good friends and Ill turn him straight"
"Bri your pretty strong for a gay guy"
"Bri I thought it was funny when you answered that both of you guys were the men when I asked who was the girl in the relationship"
"Bri remember the times in the car when we used to wrestle"
"Bri have you and Matt been trying to get pregnant?"

the jokes went on and on..some of them were IN jokes, you had to be us to get it..but nonetheless we were having an open conversation about things.

I felt it was ideal to tell him but once again I held back..But I do think however that when I get him like this again I will talk to him about it.

He said that maybe him and whoever I am with at the time, maybe Matt could become good friends. I told him "remember me and you are brothers, you are best friends with me"

He laughed out loud at this and asked me why on earth I would get jealous of something like that.

I asked him straight up "is there anything I can do or say to you that would make us not be friends anymore?"

Without hesitating he said "No way..nothing"

I started to talk about something else and he goes "Bri you heard me right? I said nothing"

Well our talk went on and on for another hour..He said that I dont even know how much he misses me..and I go trust me bro..i know and he goes you dont know..

He goes "I even considered ending my relationship to come back home and be near you again.." :confused:

I was speechless...I mean he has told me this like once or twice before...The other time was when we were both in NYC and I told him I want to get out of here..he said if I went without him he would come with me, even though it would end his relationship. :confused:

He also told me" You dont know what kind of pain I am in. The worst pain I have ever felt." He said when he puts his head down at night that hes not tired and all he does is think that Im not there. He said the pain is so bad he just lies there still, motionless, wishing I was there.

I do not know what to make of those statements :confused: . Do you see why I have fallen for this guy?

When we get the ball rolling about me being gay and all that comes with that, he kind of feels comfortable talking to me and I really do with him. He really likes that I am gay.

I dont know what it is. I think he likes the fact that he has a gay friend. And he seems curious with his questions, but maybe its just nothing more than that. Hes just curious. I said bro would you want me asking you these questions about you and your girl and hes like no, but you and Matt are not together together, so I can ask..hes more like your butt buddy he said to me...

He then asked me about gay marriage and what states have what and would I want to marry a guy and have kids..could I see myself living with a guy, etc ,etc....

We ended our talk and said we will talk soon. !oops!

Thats about it so far...update you again soon..Brian
 
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He sure seems fixated on talking about your homosexuality. I think your relationship with him is the most bizarre and intriguing one I have read about. How often do you to talk on the phone with him now?
 
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Usually every night for hours into the morning. And sometimes during the day. Sometimes long calls during the day also. Brian
 
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The plot thickens....

Wow, dude. I think at the least he has a feeling about what you need to say and is trying to make it easy for you. At the farthest end of possibilities I'm wondering if he isn't just waiting for you to admit you're in love with him so he can blurt out, "Shit, Brian, I've wanted you to say that all along! I don't want this bitch, I want you!"

Don't climb too high on that; I didn't hear the whole conversation, for starters, but I see that as a possible end to this. How likely? I dunno; I would have said it wasn't likely for the tree by my dorm to get hit by lightning, but it did, so... you don't know till things happen what they will be.

Have you said anything about you had a crush on him? ANY kind of little steps in the right direction?
 
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Hey Brian. I really think he's ready to be told. Hope you feel the time is right soon before it tears you apart. The good thing is, you have someone to talk to about being gay. I wish I did. Try not to be so depressed; things will work out.

J.
 
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I was going to keep my mouth shut, again, but ...

Brian, Dude! It sounds to me as though You, and Your "Bro" ... what's his name, again? ... are both in Dire Need of getting "Naked" together, no holds barred, and facing Life "Mano a' Mano"!! Your thoughts, and Hearts, are so strongly entwined as they are, Already!! DO NOT hold back!! DO NOT second guess!! Just let it "All Hang Out"!! Tell the Guy that You LOVE Him, with all of Your Heart, Mind, and (Hopefully) Body!! TELL HIM that You would like Nothing better than snuggling up to Him, with NOTHING between You!! Step past, and Drop, that "Final" barrier between the two of You!!

It doesn't have to be Erotic! It doesn't have to be Sexual!! And considering His "Italian Stallion Syndrome", it certainly doesn't have to be "Threatening" to His own "Self Perceptions"! But ... it does have to be Honest, Pure, "Clean", and Simple!! And ... from what I've been reading ... it has to be Soon!!

YOU need to get all of this "Out" in the "Open"!! And I don't think He would be adverse to that "Next Step"!! The Two of You sound as though You are Both working toward an Unimaginable, Wonderful, Relationship! Even Greater than what you have realized already!! And it has all come to a point where you both Need to let it Blossom to the next Plateau!

NOTHING I can think of would be more Liberating than to be able to Unabashedly, completely Uninhibitably, "Bare" Youself to another Being! (And I'm not talking Physically, necessarily, here! Even as "kewl" as that thought may be!)

Drop the Pretenses! For Your Good as well as His! No more Hesitating, Man!! Tell Him the TRUTH! And allow Him to be as Truthful to You!! COMPLETELY Accept each other for who, and what, both of You are/wish to be! It's the only "Clear" way to Blend yourselves together, Bri!

"Damn the Torpedoes! Full speed ahead!!" And no matter what may happen, you'll Both be better for it! Just trust me on that one!

Keep smilin'!! :kiss: (*8*)
Ky ;)

P.S.
As for the Money?? Phewt! It's ONLY Money!! #-o :D ..|
 
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Look man, just based on my own experience, this is going to work out in one of the following ways:

  1. You'll tell him, and he'll not like it and your friendship is over.
  2. You'll tell him and he'll be ok with what you said, but isn't in to you that way.
  3. You tell him, and it's what he's been waiting for all along, and blah, blah, blah, happily ever after.
  4. You won't tell him, and you'll spend the rest of your friggin life in a miserable state of "What if?"
If number one happens, that will hurt, but there will be closure, and you'll move on (I don't see that one happening). If 2 happens, there will also be closure, and you'll still have your 'buddy'. If 3 happens, DAMN! Good for Brian! If 4 happens, you will be me....spending the rest of your life wondering "What if" and that's not today's hurt....that's forever's hurt!

So you decide....and get on with your life!
 
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Hey guys..back with another update. :-)

To the past few replies^^^^^^Thanks and all your great advice and experience is not falling on deaf ears, trust me. :-)

This might be one of the weirdest updates in a few weeks. I could have updated this at 3am eastern time but I was kind of tired and I know I wouldnt be able to remember all that I wanted to recall. So here goes:

My buddy called me at around 2am my time, 11pm his time.
He sounded very passionate and he told me that he is resorting back to his old ways again(anxiety, sleepless nights, etc). He told me flat out, that I need to come to Las Vegas very soon or he is going to definitely come back home here.

He cannot live out there and it is not enjoyable anymore.

He said that we both need to stop putting on these fronts and act like everything is ok, when it is not. He compared it to me being gay by saying that hes putting on a front and lying too, that he misses me too much and all is not well there.

He said his girl is starting to look at him weird and wonder why he is on the phone with me so much.

He told me that he misses the days that I slept over and I was there right when he woke up..I was there to hang out with and chill with the next morning.

He said Im the only one who understands him.

He told me God did something to him when he met me..and God changed him..he said he can't explain it at all.

He said the pain of missing me is too unbearable and that no one understands why we are good friends and why we are so close.

He said "Bri, you know the love you have for a child..that love where you would do anything for it and die for it? I have that for you.." He told me he feels like we are blood.

We were talking and all of a sudden he went "Oh shit you scared me I didnt see you, whats up?.." It was his girl, and she asked who he was on the phone with and he said Bri. Then they were talking to each other about their dog for a second.

After she went back in he went outside to talk to me on the phone in his car. His girl asked what he was doing in the car and he said that hes comfortable in the car and there is a good breeze there.

He kept begging me to change my mind and come out there..or he would have to come back here soon. He said he needs me in his life and near him.

I dont know guys....I love talking to my buddy like this, we are getting more and more close I think since he left.

Recently I had wondered why he wasnt calling me late late like he usually does. I couldnt put it together :confused: . So I asked hm how come he didnt call back the other night, I was waiting to hear from you. He goes "Oh I went for a walk with my girl"... And then I still didnt put it together :confused: until he told me that she was wondering why he is always on the phone with me so much. So I think he cut back on the calls and is still doing it to appease her.


We ended the call soon, thereafter. I promised him I would think about it.

She might be getting a job for 8 an hour and he might be getting a valet job at a casino. Despite this he is still very unhappy, and says it does not have to do with location or money.

He says as money hungry as he is sometimes, that if someone offered him a billion dollars to not talk or ever see me again, he would laugh it off in a second. ..|


And thats about that for now. I know some of you are just waiting for me to tell him and open up to him. I am still feeling this out and waiting a little more to see where any of this goes and leads to. I will definitely tell him soon though, for sure.

This whole thing is hard because I really do love them both very much. !oops!

Talk to you guys soon..Bri (*8*)
 
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You truly don't know how lunky you are... I'm insanely jealous of you. This is what I wish the guy I am in love with would be doing right now...
 
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Dude, he gave you a perfect opening with that about his love for you! It was a perfect place to mention that your love for him once included a crush. He might have laughed, he might have asked if you still have one....
Okay, I'm a little impatient. Being recently out, and having hardly any friends now because of it, I guess I want to see people coming together Bam! 'cause that's what I need. But I still say you need to drop hints and work into it.
 
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Just tell him already, I don't think you have anything to lose. You've had so many opportunities to say it. If you don't say it, those moments will pass and never come back.
 
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LostVegas, you know you are so lucky.
I don't believe a friend would phone his best friend that often and repeat the same lines 'I miss you' everytime unless he has a very strong feeling toward his friend (not to mention his girlfriend is with him).

I lost of track, LostVegas, did you mention your love to him ?
From your conversation, I saw him dropping a lot of clues that he might possibly be in love with you.
 
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No I have not mentioned anything to him yet. Bri
 
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And when are you gonna???... =]
 
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