Venting Thread 2020?

[NotHardUp1]

The thing with HT....and I give JUB a HUGE amount of credit for this...is that it isn't just a random drive-by shooting your mouth off. Posters are required to provide citations for 'facts'.

Respectfully, that is simply not true. I have repeatedly challenged a name-caller who slams this or that group to cite facts and sources and he consistently avoids them, continuing with mere slurs.

It has happened many times, including many this year.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

I was fine all day and no matter the results of the Election, not trying to let it shit on my mood. Unfortunately a friend of mine had to be a Doomer about everything it completely shot my mood. Now I feel like shit.

 

[NotHardUp1]

^ I now think that was inevitable for those of us on the left.

The pundits are already doing the post mortem.

Too much is being made about the minority male vote, as they have never turned out in large numbers except for Obama which was likely a racial statement, not a Democratic statement.

The Senate isn't even flipping either. It's a rout.

The country is just as divided as it has been for years, but it has been slightly more tilted to the GOP.

The causes seem to be the same as before with Democratic turnout lagging without a candidate who excites enough of the fence-sitters. The Democrats went with a safe centrist who looks like he's living on buttermilk and it just didn't bring out enough, even with Obama stumping.

And Harris appears to be no real draw as a second seat.

As I posted before, "independent" voters were nothing more than Libertarians unhappy with the GOP, but still against the left. They went for Trump.

To make it all worse, the left-leaning media is all surprised AGAIN at the same misses they made with pollsters four years ago.

And the estimates are that Biden will lead the popular vote by 7-8 million, again proving that the electoral college system counteracts the people's will.

There will be half the nation depressed now. I hope we don't explode.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I'm glad to report that I was too downcast at the tenuous vibe I picked up in the wee hours from the pundits. Every time I heard Christie opine, it seemed like the rest of the panel was filled with doubt.

I now believe the outstanding votes will break for Biden and that Trump will fail in his legal challenges.

His cowardly spaz speech early this morning is even more evidence he lost, as a winner doesn't have to make such statements. He's about to learn about the rule of law and the Constitution.

Rubio and McConnell rebutting the president is also a good sign.

We'll still be on tenterhooks for another day or two, but we may finally get a break, even if there will be court decisions after this.

 

[BillyT]

I think we need to do some Constitutional amendments.

1. Term limits on all federal positions. Be like the President with the max of 2 terms. (Senators & Congress)

2. Max age requirement at 68 years old for all positions. (President, Senator, Congress and Supreme Court Justice)

3. To truly make it 3 branches make the Supreme Court be a non partisan peoples vote. Right now as it is it is only 2 branches since the President nominates the Judges.

 

[NotHardUp1]

In the past, the justices, much like the popes, were not reliably the shills that certain factions hoped they would be. That may have changed with the Trump restructuring.

As for term limits and age limits, those in power are disinclined to vote themselves out of power, and in a nation that is so deeply divided, we have zero chance of the supermajorities necessary to pass amendments, much less the state referenda.

We're their pawns, not vice versa.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Going vent a bit more that I am extremely disappointed that my district voted in the Sheriff that was holding office for a while now. The reason being is because he literally has a sting operation that entraps gay men in Parks. This has been going on for a few years and with the 30 plus people they have taken in, only 2 have actually been charged with anything while all of them get their mugshots posted anyway. Extremely upsetting to me that this is still a Sheriff in my district.

 

[NotHardUp1]

That is daunting.

I knew my state was going to oust a senator who has served the state well and faithfully, helping the poor, and all parties, in favor of a football coach who said some magic words about abortion and God and taxes, with no experience whatsoever in government or law.

Mind you, the governor serves here because her Republican predecessor was literally forced out of office after refusing to resign mid-scandal. Senator Jones was elected when Republicans refused to vote for their Bible-thumping Judge Roy Moore (who was expelled from the Supreme Court when he refused to abide by federal law), when it came to light he'd been having affairs and whoring around with underaged women. His defiance of federal law made him a hero, but they weren't so fond of his adultery. Mixed standards.

What a backwards people.

 

[Rickrock]

Why do emergencies always happen on week-ends and holidays? Often someone will get sick on a week-end when you can't reach your normal doctor and need to go to an emergency room.

The latest emergency we had, we started to notice the basement sewer starting to make gurgling noises Thursday night and again on Friday. Friday we called the county to get them to snake out our sewer from the house to the street, but had to leave a message. They didn't call back. It wasn't an emergency on Friday afternoon. Saturday, I started doing laundry and when the washer started emptying water started coming out of our basement sewer and running across the floor. Then it was an emergency. We had to call the county again and they did come out when it was getting dusk on Saturday and did snake out our sewer. It is okay now. Today, Monday, they returned our call from Friday. Actually, we are lucky that we have such good government services in our area.

 

[Rickrock]

Yesterday, Sunday the 15th, was a windy day and we lost our electric power a little before 3:00 PM. Although our furnace is gas, it has electronic controls, so we lost our heat, our TV, surprisingly our phone service, our computer service, our microwave, and our lights. I happened to drive around a couple of miles and I didn't see any downed trees or wires. When we have lost our power in the past it was off for an hour and a half or even 3 hours, but this time it didn't come back on until about 10:00 AM this morning, Monday. It was off for 19 hours and our house cooled off by 10 degrees during that time. This is really unusual and if it had lasted longer I would have considered checking into a motel. About a third of our suburb was without power.

 

[ShadowCat]

Since we're venting I like to take this opportunity to say FUCK THE GODDAMNED CHINESE AND THEIR LITTLE GODDAMNED VIRUS TOO! I wish we could just nuke them!

 

[NotHardUp1]

I'm watching news account after news account of the ICUs filling up in this nation and in other places like Italy.

It should be pretty obvious to even a fly that the medicine given Trump wasn't any miracle cure. He lucked out in being able to have his case arrested, in contradiction of the likely results had he been in his physical shape and not received the best medical care in the nation.

It's maddening to see people dying in such numbers, all the while, the president dismisses its seriousness, and spends his hours golfing and trying to reverse the election. It's evil.

 

[frankfrank]

And an ENTIRE evil political party (at the top of its power structure, anyway) which, almost unanimously in Congress, blesses and enables every damn thing that he does.

I was actually surprised that he didn't go around, over and over again during the last weeks of the campaign, saying something like "SEE? I TOLD YOU that COVID was no big deal. Look at me! I'm in my Seventies, and it barely affected me at all! Go out there and party on, it's safe!"

I am no longer convinced that he even HAD it at all (though, if that's true, I can't even imagine how in the hell he avoided it).

 

[Sausy]

I'm watching news account after news account of the ICUs filling up in this nation and in other places like Italy.

It should be pretty obvious to even a fly that the medicine given Trump wasn't any miracle cure. He lucked out in being able to have his case arrested, in contradiction of the likely results had he been in his physical shape and not received the best medical care in the nation.

It's maddening to see people dying in such numbers, all the while, the president dismisses its seriousness, and spends his hours golfing and trying to reverse the election. It's evil.

But the death rate is only 1-2% if that... the vast majority of people don't get that sick... everyone suck up, let's have herd immunity set in, the vaccines are coming and it will soon all be over! A million or two deaths are small potatoes compared to a collapsed Democrat economy. THAT is Donald Trump. THAT is Scott Atlas. THAT is most of the current Republican Party. And YES... THAT means I blame the seven million extra people who voted for Donald Trump despite everything too, NOT just the leadership of the Republican Party(and my God, the state legislatures are even WORSE). FUCK the fact many ARE racist, ignorant and just don't care. THAT is why I don't have your even keeled equivocation on the state of right America vs left America. Is there hypocrisy and foolishness and recklessness on the left? Yes. But it pales compared to the fact we're living in a god damned Alice in Wonderland where up is down, standards have gone out the window and what would never be thinkable in US politics we're living through that it wouldn't take much at all for complete lunacy to set in. The right has gone bananas and it's not just a small number of people. The cutrrent Republican Party has gone FAR to the right, and millions of Americans seem to like it just fine.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Really close friend of mine might have COVID because he was exposed to at work. He is having trouble finding a testing center and doesn't know what he is going to do because if he isn't working he can't afford to make ends meet. Glad our Government is doing absolutely NOTHING about this kind of shit happening across our Country. So excited for the Democrats plan of doing absolutely nothing as well once they get in. Fuck this void of sympathy and empathetic Country.

 

[NotHardUp1]

THAT is why I don't have your even keeled equivocation on the state of right America vs left America. Is there hypocrisy and foolishness and recklessness on the left? Yes. But it pales compared to the fact we're living in a god damned Alice in Wonderland where up is down, standards have gone out the window and what would never be thinkable in US politics we're living through that it wouldn't take much at all for complete lunacy to set in.

All I can say is that I feel the same way, but I think differently. I am certain the media and the political leaders are quick to push our buttons, reduce us to emotional reactionary audiences, when we need to go beyond that and reason more. I will say that you and I joined JUB in the same year, and I have always posted in both directions, often infuriating one side of an argument.

It's not as black and white as being described. Gavin Newsom was just busted for attending a private dinner with a larger group with no masks after all that preaching about it.

And Alexander Hamilton is proven now to have owned and dealt in slaves, so the popular culture myths are a-crumblin'.

But we won't get the same coverage, depending on the leanings of the reporting media.

Agreed the world is upside down. Agreed we are in much worse shape due to Trump's incompetency and callous disregard. Agreed the greater problem is evil men who sit and watch Rome while it burns, all the while planning how to exploit the aftermath.

As for the society at large, anyone looking around for the last three decades and seeing economy cars being outnumbered by retrograde SUVs could tell you in a heartbeat that Americans have been growing more selfish by the year. And that's Americans, not Republicans. So, it should come as no surprise to anyone that the majority of the country doesn't give a damn when weighing their perks vs. the deaths of people they don't care about.

And for good measure, let's throw in lots of Europe too, since they seem to be catching fire with virus that wouldn't be happening if they were masking and distancing.

All that said, don't think I am not a partisan. If there is anything unsavory in the electoral college in December, I'll get a pitchfork and be up in arms immediately. It will truly be the time to burn it to the ground.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I am no longer convinced that he even HAD it at all (though, if that's true, I can't even imagine how in the hell he avoided it).

That's certainly possible, but I find that reasoning too close to the Deep State brand of paranoia, not that the environment isn't conducive.

Trump's reaction was much too flustered for it to be a good act, and one thing we all know, is he is no actor. If he were, he would have bucked up in that Press Dinner at the White House when Obama roasted him. Any great man would have. Instead, he shriveled like a dick in cold weather.

The whole time he had COVID he fought with his staff over it, trotted out doctors who were obvious liars, etc.

Nope, he definitely had it. Some people are just too mean to die.

 

[Vannie]

See low price in cart grrrrr

 

[Alistair]

Insomnia and hiccups

 

[Cormac135]

Fuck me, £120 to get a leak fixed in the water tank, 10 minutes work, kill me now.