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On Topic Discussion What do you think about bisexuals?

MoufOfKhaos said:
... how is stating that an individuals' choice wavers with the individual and that is the sole difference, wrong, simply because one is a man and one is a woman?
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Without reading the early post again (perhaps more carefully) -- I did not intend to say that.

My point was that individuals generally act/feel, at least in part, as representatives of their groups, even if it's a small component. All I was saying was that there are group differences that are not irrelevant, even if not the most important factor in a particular situation. I seriously doubt there are many people who can react solely on individual characteristics and completely ignore group characteristics. (If that's not true, I should return my Ph.D.)
 
Kahaih said:
Except that females make up 50% of the general population, and gays less than 10%.

Also, there is an advantage for women to flirt/whore openly almost anywhere/everywhere - and often peer pressure for the bi boy to respond to their advances.
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And fuck their way to the top. They do it all the time for a little bit of fame.
 
Gentleheart said:
bisexuals are FINE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE CONFUSED/CONFLICTED ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION (who often call themselves "bisexual") are a waste of fucking time, and I think they are responsible for the negative opinions a lot of people seem to have for bisexuals.

There is a difference.

I advise staying away from the latter (especially for relationships) for the sake of your sanity.
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How, or at what point, are you able to tell the difference?

At what point do you know that you have wasted time, energy, and emotions?

Can you tell gay guys how to spot the difference before they get hurt?
 
Kahaih said:
Also, there is an advantage for women to flirt/whore openly almost anywhere/everywhere - and often peer pressure for the bi boy to respond to their advances.
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God yeah, it's so annoying that women are constantly going around demanding to be approached for sex.
 
I would like to think the Bisexual men have feelings just like bisexual women do. I think it would piss a Bi guy off to be portrayed this way I know it pissed me off.
 
General rule of thumb for dating anyone in a monogamous relationship - don't date pricks. People decide to be in a relationship, and set up the rules for it within, don't bother wasting your time on those that go out and break them - gay, straight or bi. Bi people are no more, or less, likely to cheat than anyone - all this talk of craving pussy etc. makes bi people seem like insatiable beasts. It's the same propaganda bollocks that was used against gay people for years - "they can't/don't want to be in a relationship, they want to fuck every man including you!" It is all about promoting fear of sexuality being free.
 
Kahaih said:
How, or at what point, are you able to tell the difference?

At what point do you know that you have wasted time, energy, and emotions?

Can you tell gay guys how to spot the difference before they get hurt?
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There are always *signs* that you are dealing with someone who isn't sure of themselves, don't know who they are sexually or WHAT they want. Like a lot of things, people see what they want to see, while ignoring red flags.

For example: gay guy starts casually "seeing" a "straight" guy who thinks he "may" be bi...but "still wants to be in a relationship with and ultimately marry a woman someday...

*buzzer sound*

GET OUT NOW.

*"bisexual" guy who fucks guys, but isn't ready to "settle down" with a dude yet. :rolleyes:

*"bisexual" guy who is sexually attracted to guys, but emotionally attracted to women.

*a previously-straight guy whom you "turned" gay. :rolleyes::dead:

*a bisexual guy who is fine with being intimate, emotional, etc. with you...but won't do anything remotely "open" (talking to you about his life, family, introducing you to friends, etc.) that also goes for GAY guys (closeted gays, that is...) as well...

You get the picture. That's only a few scenarios. There are many more with different variables across the board.

Be discerning and PAY attention to people's actions.

While some guys are great at playing a game and pretending to be someone they are not, they will almost always show their true colors with time--and usually not long after meeting them. It's not always immediate, but kick rocks as soon as you start seeing the bullshit. It's up to the individuals involved to decide how long they want to stay along for the ride.

I give newbies to the gay scene a little leeway, because it usually takes some time before one can easily discern such fuckery.

There are no concrete rules, but there will be red flags that shouldn't go unchecked.

When someone knows who they are, and are comfortable with who they are and confident in what they want in a mate (such as TRUE bisexuals)...you know. Their actions will show it--almost in the complete opposite manifestations (on a constant basis) of the examples I mentioned above.
 
Gentleheart said:
There are always *signs* that you are dealing with someone who isn't sure of themselves, don't know who they are sexually or WHAT they want. Like a lot of things, people see what they want to see, while ignoring red flags.

For example: gay guy starts casually "seeing" a "straight" guy who thinks he "may" be bi...but "still wants to be in a relationship with and ultimately marry a woman someday...

*buzzer sound*

GET OUT NOW.

*"bisexual" guy who fucks guys, but isn't ready to "settle down" with a dude yet. :rolleyes:

*"bisexual" guy who is sexually attracted to guys, but emotionally attracted to women.

*a previously-straight guy whom you "turned" gay. :rolleyes::dead:

*a bisexual guy who is fine with being intimate, emotional, etc. with you...but won't do anything remotely "open" (talking to you about his life, family, introducing you to friends, etc.) that also goes for GAY guys (closeted gays, that is...) as well...

You get the picture. That's only a few scenarios. There are many more with different variables across the board.

Be discerning and PAY attention to people's actions.

While some guys are great at playing a game and pretending to be someone they are not, they will almost always show their true colors with time--and usually not long after meeting them. It's not always immediate, but kick rocks as soon as you start seeing the bullshit. It's up to the individuals involved to decide how long they want to stay along for the ride.

I give newbies to the gay scene a little leeway, because it usually takes some time before one can easily discern such fuckery with ease.

There are no concrete rules.

When someone knows who they are, and are comfortable with who they are and confident in what they want in a mate (such as TRUE bisexuals)...you know. Their actions will show it--almost in the complete opposite manifestations (on a constant basis) of the examples I mentioned above.
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frankfrank said:
I hope this was sarcasm - it sounds too much like the old "The way she dressed, she was asking to be raped" scenario.
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It completely was! It was in response to someone else complaining about all women being whores.
 
EJMichaels said:
There is plenty of evidence that as a group, on average (not every individual), male and female sexuality is different. Therefore, this applies to bisexuals. It's not a matter of "better" or "worse". Are you all trying to say there are no gender differences? Acknowledging real group differences doesn't compromise individuality. This is true for non-sexual behaviors and personality too, based on the person's gender.

I could list some ways bisexuality tends to differ between men and women, but the way this thread is going, there's no point.

For the record, I'm a gay-oriented bisexual female.
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Then that would be a gender issue then wouldn't it? How men are different from women. It would have nothing to do with them being "bi". The OP was/is opining that bisexual men as being unfaithful pricks. Bisexual men being singled out here.
 
Gentleheart said:
bisexuals are FINE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE CONFUSED/CONFLICTED ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION (who often call themselves "bisexual") are a waste of fucking time, and I think they are responsible for the negative opinions a lot of people seem to have for bisexuals.

There is a difference.

I advise staying away from the latter (especially for relationships) for the sake of your sanity.
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This is a very good point. Gay closeted people give bi people a bad name. But the closet is a whole basket of issues anyway.
 
Gentleheart said:
bisexuals are FINE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE CONFUSED/CONFLICTED ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION (who often call themselves "bisexual") are a waste of fucking time, and I think they are responsible for the negative opinions a lot of people seem to have for bisexuals.

There is a difference.

I advise staying away from the latter (especially for relationships) for the sake of your sanity.
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Yup, good post.

I'll be 100% honest. My experience of real, stable, seemingly well-adjusted and straightforward bisexual people is entirely online. They might as well be unicorns offline in my experience. I've never met one. I have asked questions in private of some of the well-adjusted bisexual members here at JUB to try to better understand their views and their self-conception of their own sexuality. It's not something that can be well understood from observation in general, because going by that.... nearly all bisexual people I've ever known are bi more out of an apparent loathing of the gay label (and all of its stigmas and stereotypes) than out of a sense of a real bisexual identity.

So on the one hand I understand what must be the severe irritation of bisexual people that they feel their legitimacy and sexuality and agendas are always 'questioned.' On the other hand, in my experience bisexuals are outnumbered massively by people who lead lives which are otherwise indistinguishable from exclusive heterosexuals or homosexuals but identify verbally as bisexual, and that preponderance of behavior does (however unfair it may sound) influence my initial assessment of someone who identifies as bisexual until it's shown to be otherwise.
 
borg69unimatrix said:
This is just ignorant. Whether you're straight, gay, bi, ... other... There's temptation around every corner no matter whom/what you're attracted to. Monogamy, commitment, and being faithful is a CHOICE - regardless of anything else you might find attractive. Bi-sex people aren't any more likely to cheat than anyone else.

If you want to talk morals and honesty, why is it that now you're a bi-female, and in the other thread I linked to you're a gay guy ?
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^ TRUTH and just so, her repeating the same ignorant stereotype does not make it any truer.
 
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